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It's an incredible boat that's fun to sail. She is well laid out and the quality of the interior woodwork is incredible. Plus, they put some neat artistic designs in, like the curve of the bookshelves and the cabinet doors. Overall, a beautiful, well laid out, comfortable oceangoing vessel. If you truly go look at Passport's, remember that they are custom on the interior. The two major variations are: V-Berth forward, head just aft of the v-berth on the port side (our boat and preferable for being at sea in), and head forward (in the v - making it horrible while underway) with a pullman berth just aft (nice due to large dressing area). Once you move aft, there are a few variations of how the nav station is laid out, and whether there is a second day head onboard (like on ours)...

If we buy the Hallberg-Rassy 53 (offer in on it now) our Passport 40 will be for sale shortly! Too bad it's such a trip from where you are
The two at the marina are one of each style, so it will be good to see them side by side. Not sure if I want an open ocean boat yet. Got a long way to go before making that decision. Still looking at boats like the Bene 456 if I decide to stay coastal, and still at the dreaming stage right now. Gotta sell the CS first too! Nice to hear that the Passport is a good live aboard. Looks like a great layout and use of space. I like the engine placement. gotta go to work, adios.
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Labatt, we have friends with a Passport 40, same layout as yours, but the engine sits much lower and further aft in the boat, the dinette is a full "U" and the bulk of the engine is under the seat.... His is a Perkins and is incredibly quiet - all you really hear is the gearbox!

JohnR, our boat is a Brazilian built version of the Nicholson 345, a Holland design built by a now-defunct outfit called Fast Yachts. Nich built about 30; Fast built about 130 (much cruisier versions) of them up into the '90s. (hence my ID, I make no claim to be faster than anyone else - either on the water or with wits..)

Giu - as others have pointed out that's our heater.. an unfortunate necessity hereabouts. (as is a dodger, and layers of clothing....) You are indeed fortunate, on quite a number of levels.

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Labatt I really like the location of the engine in the middle of the boat!!! great set up, balances the boat nicely... Is it noisy in that box with no sound proof? By the way...isn't your prop too much out of the water???
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Nice interior labatt, reminds me of a vintage clipper ship. I don't see any sound insulation around the engine enclosure though. Is it loud for crew who choose to stay below when motoring?
It's a beautiful, warm interior with all the modern amenities you'd ever want. There is no insulation around the engine on our boat, but other owners have added it and the sound level on those boats is minimal (no problem being down below). On our boat it's definitely loud, and if we weren't selling it so soon (perhaps VERY soon) we would definitely add soundproofing. The other nice thing about having the engine under the table is that it opens up the entire aft of the boat for storage. Under the companionway ladder is a door which leads to the huge storage area (we call it the condo). Here's a picture of the prop (Gori closed up - Giu should appreciate). Not the most efficient angle, but she does very well under power (except turning while in reverse, unless you are in neutral).

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Labatt, we have friends with a Passport 40, same layout as yours, but the engine sits much lower and further aft in the boat, the dinette is a full "U" and the bulk of the engine is under the seat.... His is a Perkins and is incredibly quiet - all you really hear is the gearbox!
Faster - I've heard about that version. I don't think many were built.
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Labatt...it was a joke...in the picture of your motor before, behind the table you can see a prop from an outboard....!!!

Excellent choice of prop, by the way
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Labatt...it was a joke...in the picture of your motor before, behind the table you can see a prop from an outboard....!!!

Excellent choice of prop, by the way
LOL! Didn't even notice the prop! Love the Gori - especially when we did our trip from Annapolis to Lake Champlain and had to motor an excessive amount (wind on the nose almost the entire trip).
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looking at the distance from the prop to the skeg hung rudder, is the distance of the prop from the rudder why it is difficult to maneuver in reverse. are there any benefits to the distance between the rudder and prop.

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My preference is for a fixed table with drop sides. I'd rather it fully inside a U rather than specifically centreline.

Ms Wombat reckons there is a case for a drop down to form another bed but my problem with collapsible tables is that they can and do. Collapse that is.

Ours is centre line with two drop leafs. We tend to keep the port leaf permanently raised, the starboard only when needed.

Biggest thing wrong with our table is that the damn thing is too high. That's not easy to fix unfortunately.
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...Ours is centre line with two drop leafs. We tend to keep the port leaf permanently raised, the starboard only when needed.

Biggest thing wrong with our table is that the damn thing is too high. That's not easy to fix unfortunately.
I find it curious that one of the main whinges against centreboard boats (like Hartleys! ) is that the centreboard clutters up the cabin and limits the interior design - but then keel boat designers put a drop-leaf table right where the centreboard would be and somehow that's okay all of a sudden!

TDW, why can't you just trim the legs down to lower it? I know you don't have a centreboard under there...
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What would you do (have done) to improve it?

We like ours very much. It is bulkhead mounted. It is usually left in position with half the table down. This way it provides a good brace while under way with still plenty of room to move around. If more space is needed it can be stowed away and you could fold sails, sit ups, etc. Or deploy the other half and seat 6 humans nicely, 8 is tight. With it opened completely it makes for going forward pretty impossible.

If I did something different...I would mount the table from the bulkhead to a stowage rack for wine, vodka, etc and flatware, maybe, plates and other dinner ware? In addition, a bracket to make the table more secure.

http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/7/...?1189532080000

BTW...pics not our boat, a sistership


The top on is a pic of it stowed, the following pic is it partially opened

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