You can't build a boat until you can do this... - Page 2 - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Boat Review and Purchase Forum > Sailboat Design and Construction
 Not a Member? 


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #11  
Old 10-27-2007
CapnHand's Avatar
humble pie rat
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Location, Location
Posts: 867
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 8
CapnHand is on a distinguished road
I'd say that the rudder doubles as a sculling oar. This is the helmsman
__________________
There are 10 kinds of people. Those who understand binary and those who don't.

Last edited by CapnHand; 11-06-2007 at 08:05 PM.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #12  
Old 10-27-2007
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,998
Thanks: 5
Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts
Rep Power: 11
wind_magic has a spectacular aura about wind_magic has a spectacular aura about wind_magic has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by chucklesR View Post
to rip a tree by hand, you dig a pit, put the tree over the pit, one team gets in the pit, the other gets above the log - using a rip saw you literally saw the length of the tree - things like guides etc are all 'optional'.
My grandfather was a cooper (barrel maker) I spent summers from 6 to 16 (he passed the next winter) working with him, learning his craft. I didn't own a power tool until over 40 and built my first wooden boat three years ago. I'll own up to using an electric sander, but that's the only modern tool that touched my 11 foot sailing dinghy. Everything else I used were tools from my grandfathers shop.
Thanks for the explanation. I have never ripped a tree like that myself, but I am always interested in how things are done.

I love simple tools. It amazes me how many things people use expensive "modern" tools for. So much of what people use these various special saws and things for could easily be done in a lot less time with a sharp chisel.
__________________
What are you pretending not to know ?

Please support my
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #13  
Old 10-27-2007
.
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,855
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 12
Giulietta is just really nice Giulietta is just really nice Giulietta is just really nice Giulietta is just really nice Giulietta is just really nice
Quote:
Originally Posted by deniseO30 View Post
those planks looked bandsawed to me. straight saw lines arcross the grain.. Love that rudder!! I am the only one wondering about the weather helm? Gui what kind of wood is that?
I don't really know, but they mentioned carvalho, which I believe its oak. But not sure.

Its actually quite sad when you read about it...made me sad...

This was photos taken in 1991, when a crew filmed in July and August (2 months to build the boat), they then never had the money to finish the movie and edit it into a documentary.

Theses were the LAST BUILDERS of such boats in the traditional way. Their pay was food and shelter, while they made the boat.!!

Wood was free and the boat was built in the land of the owner, on the margin of the river.

They used bulls as cranes for everything except the launch, whose tradition required the man to pull her into the water, as a sign of respect.

Since then, the men have died, and with them the art of building a rabelo boat. The images...well they are there..somewhere...unfortunately never to be seen again....
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #14  
Old 10-28-2007
tenuki's Avatar
Helms ALee!
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Pacific Northwest, USA
Posts: 1,245
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 8
tenuki will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by wind_magic View Post
So much of what people use these various special saws and things for could easily be done in a lot less time with a sharp chisel.
Not true, cutting my finger off is easier with power tools, a sharp chisel will just cut to the bone generally.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
member
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #15  
Old 10-28-2007
kananumpua's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Charlotte
Posts: 122
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 9
kananumpua is on a distinguished road
GUI,

In the article, does it say what they were melting in the kettle to seal the boat up?

Thanks for the link!
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #16  
Old 10-28-2007
.
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,855
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 12
Giulietta is just really nice Giulietta is just really nice Giulietta is just really nice Giulietta is just really nice Giulietta is just really nice
Quote:
Originally Posted by kananumpua View Post
GUI,

In the article, does it say what they were melting in the kettle to seal the boat up?

Thanks for the link!
IT's GIU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yes, it does...they seal with what would be translated to English as I don't know the name as "blonde tar", mixed with Sheep grease to penetrate better.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #17  
Old 10-28-2007
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: wherever
Posts: 5,258
Thanks: 8
Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts
Rep Power: 11
xort has a spectacular aura about xort has a spectacular aura about xort has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by Giulietta View Post
IT's GIU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I think we found his weak spot!!!!!
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #18  
Old 11-06-2007
.
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,855
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 12
Giulietta is just really nice Giulietta is just really nice Giulietta is just really nice Giulietta is just really nice Giulietta is just really nice
OK I found a few really nice photos of these boats that still sail today, I swear its true, they still sail the wine down the river...its said the gentle rocking is better than the truck transport, and the wine enriches..

have fun....











and how it was 120 years ago...

Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #19  
Old 11-07-2007
ReverendMike's Avatar
Mostly Harmless
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: S. Central MO
Posts: 885
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 9
ReverendMike will become famous soon enough
I agree with your sadness at these things being lost. But I have hope here in the states because of the strong growth of wooden boatbuilding programs. In addition to the Yacht restoration in RI, there are a number of boatbuilding schools in Maine and Washington (and some in the Great Lakes are, I think) and I just read last evening about Bluenose IV in the works by our neighbors up north.

I hope it's not too late for your country to hold onto those skills which have been such an important part of it's history.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

"... the only matter of consequence before me is what I will do with my alloted time. I can remain on shore, paralyzed with fear, or I can raise my sails and dip and soar in the breeze." - Richard Bode, First you have to row a little boat (pg. 94)
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #20  
Old 11-07-2007
.
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,855
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 12
Giulietta is just really nice Giulietta is just really nice Giulietta is just really nice Giulietta is just really nice Giulietta is just really nice
Sad thing is...they are forever lost...those guys you see building them were the last ones of the builders.

No one now builds a boat for food and wine anymore...$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

That art is lost, and no one has interest in doing it again. The boats were work horses, there are still many around as I showed in the post above, and are used as "live" advertisment for the vineyards, as they dock them in the river front.

The building now, is gone, as the price to build one now is not going to be cheap, and they will truck the wine...sad but true

Those photos are what is left...sad for me and mankind..
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What's your biggest bonehead move sailing? CharlieCobra Seamanship & Navigation 569 07-03-2014 04:48 PM
Modern Hull forms and Motion Comfort Jeff_H Sailboat Design and Construction 193 10-31-2013 09:29 AM
Naming and Renaming Your Boat Sue & Larry Cruising Articles 0 12-15-2003 07:00 PM
Refitting an Older Boat Sue & Larry Gear and Maintenance Articles 0 12-16-2000 07:00 PM
The Balance of Hull and Sails Steve Colgate Seamanship Articles 0 05-25-2000 08:00 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:58 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.