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As other posters have stated, the use of an arch to mount the traveller is not a 'novel' idea used only by Hunter. Among the other brands that utilize this approach, Malo utilizes a arch to keep the traveller out of the cockpit. Unless one has the requisite knowledge and skill, I would not call this a DIY project.

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I used one when I took my keelboat cruising course, it was a Hunter 31.
It was nice to have the traveller above your head and out of the way, but I found that because it is above and slightly behind your head while at the helm, you almost have to turn around to adjust it.
Because it was so high as well, we found ourselves standing up on the cockpit seats or the pushpit seats to properly monitor it's position.
Having said all that, I liked it and anticipate more boat builders will adopt the idea.

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While the arch is a good way to get the mainsheet traveler out of your way, while avoiding mid-boom sheeting, you really have to think about how you're going to layout the control lines, since you'll have at least three lines coming off the arch. One for each side of the traveler and at least one for the main sheet. Having it properly designed, fabricated and installed is key though, considering the loads that a mainsail can put on the traveller.
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My preference for location of the traveler and mainsheet is right in front of the helmsman. Easy for single handing, end boom sheeting, no need to turn backwards to make adjustments, etc. But that location is now only seen on race boats it seems. I understand the drawbacks, but I guess sailing performance is higher on my list of priorities than most.
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i dunno about the clorox boat thing:
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Just looked at similar threads on a Hunter site as well as some comments by Malo owners with the arch, all of whom provided uniformly positive feedback on the arch. I'm sure some will attribute that to owner's pride but that syndrome also applies to anyone who has a bias against anything other than that which they own. From my perspective, I'd choose to listen to the opinions of people who have them than those who follow a more traditional (read - old-fashioned) approach.
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Anything that reduces cockpit clutter (read trip hazzards) is a good thing. Sheet Tail bags are great - if you have time to stuff the tail in the bag and remember to.
A arch with a continuous line is great in this aspect, and the traveller is at the aft end of the boom which is much better (in my opinion) than a mid-boom can be.
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It may be interesting, in light of this thread, that the Perry-designed Stephens 53 featured on the cover of this month's SAIL magazine sports a traveler arch.
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OK I have to admit that I have sailed a Hunter 33 for a number of years now here in this forum. I love the arch and here is why.
First I'm a sail trim nut. I am always adjusting. The two traveler lines come down right next the helm one on each side. When tacking all I have to do is move the traveller to induce mainsail twist. When the wind starts to get gusty and the mainsail gets overpowered I can dump the traveller right there at the helm and than readjust it when the wind dies down. Easy peasy! No running around the wheel, running forward to find the lines, release on end and/or tighten the other side, than run back to the helm. I have marked the sheets which show center position. With that I know where the traveller is at all times. With the winches also by the helm station, it makes this boat very easy to sail solo.
Safety reason. Since it is NOT a race boat, I like the fact the boom is out of the way when people are in the cockpit. This is especially true when I have people who are not used to sailing and I don't like to scream out "Duck Your Head"! It goes with my policy of no screaming on my boat!
In addition, I also like the fact that I have something real sturdy to hold on to as well as my crew when things get a little unbalanced.
A Roll Bar and place to hang things. While some might think of that as silly, I don't. I like my speakers up there and I also have a convenient place to put a light. Speakers cut into the bottom of the lazzerates are not my thing. Just another thing for boat "bites"! Also they are out of the weather and any water the might get on the floor for some reason like rain, pooping or just washing down the boat. The light has both red and white which makes it nice for night sailing or relaxing in the cockpit at night with guests or a good book.
The rest of you are all jealous! I can tell.. admit it.
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PS I just spent a day at the Caliber factory, If anyone has any questions PM me. Valiant factory is next at the end of the month.
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Mel...I would be most interested in your impressions of the Caliber visit. I've always felt the boat was the cheapest NEW boat that I could liveaboard and comfortably cross oceans in. What did you find tht you liked and disliked?
My guess is you'll like the Valiant but that canoe stern does cost some space!
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