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On my c320 I ran the traveler control lines outside of my dodger and back to the stern pulpit so that my wife could relax against the bulkhead in peace as I basically single hand 99% of the time. I simply used rail cleats to hold the block on the cabin top and block/cleat combo on the forward rear pulpit rail. It may look 'micky mouse' but it worked perfectly for 4 years up until I traded it in.


Yep... that was kinda my idea too. Nice pics and design, C. Catalina owners are truly inovative, exqusite, good looking sailors. HEHE! I guess BF can at least throw on some makeup and TRY to be inovative (smile) as he does not own a Catalina.

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BF...I am going to be honest here..

DON'T.

To go thru all that work to have a 3 inch traveller...don't bother....

Redirect your main shhets aft as suggsted by CL...that is your best option. You can do the same to the traveller lines...

Forget about the mid height mid thing traveller, not worth it.

that "subway" (a joke with the foot long sandwich they sell), traveller is useless and serves no purpose other than scratch your legs, and allow us a few scuffs here
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Redirect your main shhets aft as suggsted by CL...that is your best option. You can do the same to the traveller lines...
Actually that Was the Starboard Traveller line. The double ended mainsheet lines were still under the doger near the winches which were need many times with mid-boom sheeting.
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Point taken gentlemen. Re-route the lines looks the best, cheapest, easiest, and reversible if I don't like it. I can put a winch aft for the sheet.(maybe)

CL I like that track set up you have there in the photo, looks nifty.

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CL I like that track set up you have there in the photo, looks nifty.
Garhouer line adjustable genoa cars. Between them and the mainsheet traveller lines at my fingertips back at the helm I tweaked my way by many fully crewed boats my size out on the bay while I just kicked back with my wife nodding off against the bulkhead
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Okay guys, ya'll have seen this picture before - so while Travellers are being discussed let me get some input.
The stock traveller on my gem is from schaffer, it has push pins. I sent it back for a mod that converts it to bearings and blocks with a continuous line - a 200 buck upgrade.
I'm thinking of raising it up out of the way - I don't like the way the mainsheet 4:1 and traveller preclude anyone from sitting on the aft seat while trimming.
I want to raise it by beefing up the backing and poles of the hard bimini and extending the poles up where they currently bend towards the bow. I'd put the traveller at about the same level as the end of the bimini roof is now.
That provides head room, and would be about 18-24 inches below the boom when the main is raised, topping lift is eased and going upwind.
The question isn't so much about will it work - is that enough distance boom to traveller to get good leverage - and meanwhile not snarl my 4:1 mainsheet?
First pic, standard PCI pic, second is of a bunch of gem's at a raft up, shows top of mainsheet, boom end etc..
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The question isn't so much about will it work - is that enough distance boom to traveller to get good leverage - and meanwhile not snarl my 4:1 mainsheet?
That's about the same distance my end sheeted mainsheet block system has to work with being mounted on the pilothouse. Although my blocks are 'vertical in line' multiples which I think are less prone to the permanent 'burned in' twisted sheet problem than the 'horizontal' multiple blocks which can give you a binding issue over time. They can 'take a set' or whatever the proper term is and just refuse to stop twisting until you do somthing like wash, reverse them, or both.
I would simply tie a length of line to the deck attachment point up to the block system attachment long enough to 'shrink' the block system down to the length you are looking for and try it out for awhile. That may not be a perfect test but should give you some indication of the function.
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Just to throw something in here. I am recalling that C&C, e the most recent ones, have a harken traveler, that I recall, is easily removable when at the dock. As such, you have a longer traveler than shown, but still out of the way with some pins as I recall so you are not hitting your shins.

I could then see doing this a bit forward of the storage lockers. OR, if you do not get into the lockers when at sail, you could do something that would raise the traveler above the lockers when at sail, so the traveler is full width of the cockpit.

On my current 30', my traveler is just in front of the cabin door, again full width, no real issues in my mind. When at dock, move the traveler to one side, usually I have on the opposite side I am docked at. It is a bit difficult when pointing up wind to go below, but as long as you are not twice as wide as an ave person, you can get by.

I would agree tho, that running the current sheet line aft would probably be the cheapest and easiest option! My point, is that there are some other options for a cockpit traveler, granted, they may, or may not work for you instance. i would look into them, and not make a 24 hr decision from posts on here.

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since their were a few skeptics out there regarding my hunter style traveler arch. what about a traveler mounted on a track riser, or a raised stainless bracket, located just aft of the cockpit just in front of the stern railing?
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Basically, Chuckles is going for a Hunter Arch setup, even though he isn't calling it that.
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