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zaliasvejas 04-11-2008 05:07 PM

Is my boat worthy...
 
I would like to hear your opinions about Nordica 30 and theoretical capability of single handing this boat all the way around this big globe of ours...
I live on it now, in Maine, and am truly enjoying the experience (yes, winter too). My dream is to take it for long spin, say to Mediterranean and beyond...
I know, there is lots to do and install before I set off, but I have some time...maybe..

I have posted some pics on my personal gallery here..

seabreeze_97 04-12-2008 02:09 AM

Would certainly seem to be a good choice....maybe enlarge those cockpit drains first.

Jeff_H 04-12-2008 10:48 AM

Is this the Nordica 30, the double-ender that was manufactured during the late 1960's/early 70's? If so, these boats were loosely based on the older wooden Goetenborg Flyers and Tumlararen, which were highly regarded for their seaworthiness and ease of handling. That said, any 30 footer is on the small size in terms of carrying the kinds of consumables, gear and spares that it takes for long distance cruising. And that said, if I had to pick an inexpensive 30 footer for a circumnavigation, this would certainly be a good choice.

Of course, even though these were a good design, they are a bit long in the tooth, and were intended for coastal cruising. Given the small size of the boat for this purpose, you would be need to commit to a more traditional style of distance cruising, which tends to be simplier and more spartan than many modern cruisers seem to prefer. Personally, I am a fan of this style of cruising, but its not for everyone.

Because of the age of the boat, and design, you would need to make sure that you have the key systems in sound condition. I would suggest that if I were contemplating a circumnavigation of a boat like this, I would start by replacing the standing and running rigging, replace the sails with sails that were intended for offshore use (heavier fabrics, chafe and attachment points.) I would beef up the rigging attachment points, hardware mountings, and add solid attachment points and jacklines for your harness. I would make sure to that you have a reliable two line reefing system for two reef lines plus a good set of storm sails (jib & trisail with own track). You will need light air sails as well since boats like this lack the kind of fuel capacity that is required to be able to motor through lighter winds.

You will want a high quality self-steering vane since its hard to carry adequate fuel/solar panel/battery capacity to operate an electronic autopilot on a boat this small. You may need to increase the water tank capacity and perhaps fuel capacity.

One issue that si specific to boats like yours, is the large fixed portlights in the doghouse. I would suggest that you refit these with heavier lexan (perhaps 5/8" for ports this size). Another big problem with a boat this size is the dinghy issue. You really can'y safely tow a dinghy or carry it on the cabin top, davits, foredeck offshore on a boat this size and even finding space to stow a deflated inflatable and its outboard can be a problem. But having a good dinghy will be critical on a boat this size.

And with all due respect, the most critical element of being able to take a 30 footer around the world is your skill level and knowledge of offshore sailing. It takes years to have the kinds of diverse experience that is required to develop the skills that it takes safely sail a 30 footer around the world and perhaps this is a mistaken assumpstion (and I apologise if it is) if you need to ask us if your boat is suitable, then you probably lack enough experience at this point and so an important preparation will be to spend time developing the various skills necessary.

Respectfully,
Jeff

sailboy21 04-12-2008 07:02 PM

A whole lot of other people have done it with much less of a boat. I couldn't find your gallery, is this the boat: http://www.nordicaboats.com/assets/i...ro-med-opt.jpg
?

zaliasvejas 04-14-2008 06:08 PM

Thank you all for the good advise!
Yes, this is the boat in the picture.
I have a lot of improvements to do... As far as an autopilot, I am investigating direct steering with a counter weighted blade, where the blade out of balance would have enough leverage to affect the tiller. As you can see, this boat is not easy to adapt to regular paddle in the water and a fin in the air design (Monitor). It sails pretty well up to 90 deg apparent wind without any help, and once you go beyond 90, pressure on the tiller decreases, so the paddle might work.
Yes, it would be a minimalist type adventure, but I like to simplify as much as I can.
Thanks again for any ideas

The Seeker

zaliasvejas 04-14-2008 06:25 PM

Just to add...
I have had some adventures single handing, two weeks at a time, on a smaller boat. Coastal cruising. My first trip on a keel boat was from Greenport, L.I. to Piermont, NY, on the Hudson. I have learned a few lessons... survived with a bruised hand. But we got there just fine. Then I sailed the same boat
(Pearson Ariel) from Piermont to Portland, Maine. That was an adventure...
No autopilot of any kind, motor working sporadically, but this time I borrowed a GPS.
Hell Gate part was a hair raising experience, both times... I got there right on time on the slack tide, but so did every monster barge this side of the Atlantic... It was crowded.
Well, this boat seems like a good start, for my means, anyway...
Thanks!

lbdavis 04-16-2008 03:03 PM

How do I see a members gallery? I wanna see! I wanna see!

sailingdog 04-16-2008 04:24 PM

Click HERE.
Quote:

Originally Posted by lbdavis (Post 301136)
How do I see a members gallery? I wanna see! I wanna see!

Otherwise, click on the Galleries entry in the Quick Menu on the left side of the sailnet pages. :)

slyrss3 04-17-2008 11:19 PM

Hey Zali, try "sheet to tiller" or "sheet to helm" self steering. Google it!

zaliasvejas 04-30-2008 09:34 PM

Thanks, all
I have just dug out an Autohelm 2000 auto pilot. It was installed at some point on the boat, so I was able reattach it. It works just fine.
Since I will have to keep the battery charged anyway, for now, Autohelm will do just fine. It looks so simple... Alas, the guts of it are probably hard to fix by now... any one has a spare that they can sell?


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