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This is Cape Fear 38R sailing in the Vineyard Race Labor Day weekend, we delivered this boat after a refit at Cape Fear, NC to Stamford CT last month in 3 days 6 hr, via Gulf Stream. All is going well, boat is very fast and rates with IRC 45 fleet.



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This is Cape Fear 38R sailing in the Vineyard Race Labor Day weekend, we delivered this boat after a refit at Cape Fear, NC to Stamford CT last month in 3 days 6 hr, via Gulf Stream. All is going well, boat is very fast and rates with IRC 45 fleet.



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I guess one question is whether Cape Fear has changed in any way the lay-up schedule in the area where the keel is attached to the hull? Or are they still attaching them in the exact same manner as used on the Cynthia Woods?

I had also been hoping that Jeff H might opine on the apparent inconsistencies between the two reports which Ilenart detailed.
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Question What was done during the refit?

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This is Cape Fear 38R sailing in the Vineyard Race Labor Day weekend, we delivered this boat after a refit at Cape Fear, NC to Stamford CT last month in 3 days 6 hr, via Gulf Stream. All is going well, boat is very fast and rates with IRC 45 fleet
What year is this vessel and what was done during the refit? Any hull/keel interface work or repairs?

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The boat is a salvage from hurricane damage/sinking in Texas, - I believe the previous name was "Boomer" or something similar.

Hull repair and refit done at CF Yacht Works over the winter. Keel joint was not affected by original damage, it, however, was worked over as part of the refit.

This is the "R" version - draft is 7'+ ;
Hull is epoxy - unique in this series of boats, - repairs done in epoxy as well.
All standing rigging original as well as sails.
All else replaced or repaired.

IRC - 1.105 with Large (Monster) Light Air Spinnaker

We have not had more than a 1000nm on it - but so far so good. Boat was hauled after delivery for rating weighing and was on the hard for a week - the keel/hull joint appeared flawless.

We did not bounced the keel on anything yet.

There are pics - I will check with the owner before posting.

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One sandbar grounding and some serious wave beating took apart a brand new J133 so the issue my be more wide spread then we like
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I was wondering when someone would post pics of the J133 that went ashore new years eve day IIRC.

No matter how you slice it, going aground is not good. Loki went aground a yr or two ago in Italy, only to be renamed to a new boat. Altho the reason was as lost rudder, not keel related.

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Seems to have happened in two steps grounding and lost keel and then beaten up by the bad luck of coming to shore on top of a seawall
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I wouldn't want this thread to sidetrack too much off the Cynthia Woods investigation, but the J133 lost keel is an interesting discussion point.

Yes, there are clear performance benefits to these high aspect keel designs, and likely the attachment is engineered to more than withstand sailing conditions. But it really does illustrate how such a small footprint for the keel attachment leaves the boat vulnerable in a grounding where forces can far exceed anything experienced while sailing.

Also, looking at those photos, do I see a keel bolt (or two) that remained in place on the hull? I.e., was it pulled out of the keel casting?
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