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post #11 of 20 Old 07-04-2008
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"Fix It And Sail" by Brian Gilbert is a good book to give you some ideas of where you need to go next.

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Hi, congrats, and good luck...
Don Casey's "This old boat" covers pretty much everything from top to the bottom and port to the starboard
For Marine stuff, I found this web site which is like the yellow pages for boating stuff... "mpcnetwork.com" They have a little booklet that is for New England...
As far as I can advise about fg is that play with it, test your skills, timing, until you are familiar with the whole process... Build stuff you may or maynot use but to give you an idea how to apply them on bigger scale...
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Before rebuilding, take Saildog suggestion and read.

To see what condition the entire boat is in, clean it inside. The smell of dirt is probably through out the boat, but with rags and something similar to Purple (used in yards) you can get a sense of what there. Look for dirt lines, high, so you can tell whether it has been down or had rain water. It don't matter with glass, it will clean. Pull out all the wood inside. Don't trust. As to wood, I suggest marine grade ply or if you want a nice teak looking, use Marine grade with vener, like hyrocore (see woodpanel.com). If the wood you remove cannot be use as temeplate, go to Lowes, HDepot, etc and get a stack of thin blue foam siding. You can made templates from the wood removed and cut and tape to fit for jig. Delamination on a 22 deck is not a big deal since there is not alot of deck. West System can be used to firm up by injecting, if it is a core hull. If you want to find out about leaks, stuff rags in all vents, holes, anything that air will escape. Put a couple of large fans below. On deck, take a spray bottle with a solution of Dawn and water. Turn the fans on an work the deck in 1' x 1'. Get the sun at you back and with a good pair of sunglass, you can see any small bubbles.
This should keep you going for a while !

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Alright guys, your help has been amazing thus far.

Here's my updated situation: Before I can put in the buoyancy foam and the marine plywood decking I need to address my Keel and Centerboard problems.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to need to replace the metal around the keel, if not the keel itself. Plus I think I should remove the centerboard, clean it, and attach a new cable to the hand-winch, as the rope was snapped when I got the boat.

What do you all think? Here is a link to my flickr page. Scroll down just a bit and you'll see the pics of the keel/centerboard.

Flickr: JamesCT's Photostream

Any help? What do you make a keel out of? What kind of metal sheaths the keel? Do you coat the thing in fiberglass? Anything else I need to know?? Thanks!

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James,
I'd really love to talk to you about how you removed the deck from the hull. I'm in the process of restoring a 19' Sailstar Conquest/Bristol Corinthian. Also, the advice others have given about Don Casey's books are dead right. "This Old Boat" is worth it's weight in encapsulated lead!
We've gutted our cabin, and are about to try to remove the deck, but I'm having some trouble today figuring out how the interior of the cabin separates, particularly around the beam that supports the deck stepped mast.
Also, I noticed some Maine pictures on your Flickr account while I was checking out your keel. Sorry I can't advise you on that - I'm not there yet. Are you in Maine? We're working up in the Bangor area.

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Hey Jack,

No I'm actually down in Massachusetts, though I love Maine. One of my favorite places I've been.

What would you like to know about the hull/deck separation process? It sounds like we have similar boats, so ask away. If you like, I can post more pictures on my flickr page, specifically of that part of the disassembly.

I'm still a little stuck on the keel though, and at this point I'm pretty much going to just muddle my way through that portion of the repair.

Anyway, get back to me and we'll chat.

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Thanks for the reply! I'm not sure about your keel, but the following website may have some ideas for you. Pearson Triton #381 Glissando | Repairing the Cracked* "False Keel"
I bet that won't link, as I'm new around here, so you might have to cut and paste it. Also, those Don Casey books are REALLY helpful. Check Amazon for some great deals...

My hull to deck joint was held together with stainless steel staples, which I am currently in the process of removing. I've also gutted, essentially, the interior of the cabin. My next step, we hope, is to remove the deck from the hull in one piece.


Now, I'm curious about the weight of the deck, and the possibility of breakage due to its own weight.

Also, our crew so far can't figure out how the beam under the mast step on the inside of the cabin attaches to the hull. There are several theories floating around with my crew that the beam is like a roll bar on a jeep, and that it remains there after the deck is removed (not my thoughts), or that it is merely glassed to the inside of the hull. When you lifted your deck off the hull, after separating the hull-deck joint, how did this come apart. I wish I had pictures to show you what I mean, but it's too dark here now to get some shots.

Any insight or tips you have will be greatly appreciated. Is this your first restore?

Jack
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Jim

You mentioned replacing your keel. From the pictures, it appears from the it is an iron keel, I maybe wrong. There is under the wooden boat forum this question was posed several years ago, here is the link

How to protect a cast iron keel? - The WoodenBoat Forum

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Tom,
I got your PM about my hull, but I can't answer a PM yet, as I have too few posts for access. Thanks for the info, and I'll answer as soon as I can!

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Glad to offer what little I think I know.

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