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Falling down the slippery slope!!

I'm not sure this is the place to ask this question, but.............
I am an avid sailor as well as a skilled woodworker looking to merge these two loves together. I have been looking at vessels to build all across the web (visited just about every site) and have settled on a few designs. All of them are loosely designated as "daysailers", and vary widely as to their construction, intended use, trailability, and hull shape. I will probably be sailing alone, as I have done most of my life, so single-handling is required. Not quite sure if I will be keeping her in a slip, out on a mooring, or drop'n her in when it's time to go. If I do trailer her, obviously a full keel would be a bit more difficult to launch alone. Not impossible, but a bit more work involved. The rig should support two sails, at least, unless I can be convinced otherwise. Going fast is not a requirement, although weekly club races are not out of the question. Above all, she must be able to handle the elements experienced in near coastal as well as the traffic of a crowded river. A bit like looking for the perfect boat?
I have owned, sailed, and maintained several wooden sailboats in my life and have cared for and loved all of them. Sorry 'glass guys. I just cannot see myself owning a glassy. Nothing wrong with them... all of them are perfect, if maintained. They are just not for me. I do not consider it "work" to care for a vessel, especially one that returns the favor. So for me, wood is the choice. Having said that, however, I also cannot afford to spend two years or more trying to get out on the water. I just might have to buy a used glass boat while I build another. Trying to buy a repairable wooden sailboat is nuts! The prices......
Anyway, what I need is feedback on ease of construction, plan completeness, ease of acquiring materials, cost concerns, etc. I know, I know.... opening up the proverbial of worms. But any other "woody's" out there who have built or restored a wooden vessel know what I mean. Any suggestions on which boat? Length? Materials? Plan completeness? Ease of handling? Specials to the East Coast/Mid-Atlantic region?
If I build a good vessel, and she moves well, maybe I'll turn around and build several for the local kids to use. Give back a bit and get some fresh blood interested in the wind and waves!!
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Over in Philly, there is a boat bulding school, prehaps talking to them could light the way on some of your needs. I will try and find the name.
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Hey Freesail99:
Thanks for the feedback. The school in Philly is a wonderful place. I have been there many times! They help maintain several local vessels and if ever you need advice, help, or just want to talk boats, head over there with coffee and donuts and your in! Awesome group of folks! Very good marlinespike work too!
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If wanting a wood style boat, nothing IMHO for what you want to do, would probably beat a Lightning. 19' fast for its size, a large 1D racing arena, along with the fact, that dispite no cabin, it does have a phrf rating.

Otherwise, I have built 2 boats from Glen-L as a teen, the 8' 8ball, and the Glen'L 12' sloop daysailer. My step dad built a 21' CB cabin typical trailer sailer at the same time. All three sets of plans were easy to read etc.

If you want a bit bigger, ala mid 20's, a Tbird, fast, reasonably comfortible, along with 1D races, and it has been 50 yrs this summer that it was first built etc.

Otherwise, not sure what to say on what will or will not work.

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Thought of this later, but Woodenboat, and the Glen'l sites have wood boat build forums, where in all honesty, if you have not looked and joined, you may very well get a better response there than here. Not that here will be supper bad, but some actual how to info may be better etc. as folks there will be more "I like woodys" and want to preserve, work on etc.

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Thanks Marty. I'll check out the Glen'l offerings and research them closer. I had bypassed them one night as I searched the web because I was looking for something specific. For some reason, I never went back. Silly me. I'll take another look.
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Have you looked at clarkcraft.com? they have plans for the t-bird. Dudley dix has many faster more modern wood do it yourself buildable boats too. IIRC he as a mini transat plan that some folks have done well racing etc.

Clarkcraft also has Hartley plans available, one fellow from Oz where I believe they started out at, has an H18 he sails and races. Obviously wooden boat has plans, but more of a older style set of boats to work with.

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Dix also has got a cruising version of the miniTransat that is pretty nice.
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Build a Boat

I started building a wooden boat, and it didn't take long to figure out I could just buy a good used one for way less then I could build one. Materials are sky high unless you use crappy wood. Other materials aren't cheap either.
Price things like marine grade plywood or Oak or other ship worthy woods and be astounded as I was!
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If you're interested in Hartley their web site is:

Hartley TS 18 21 - Home page

They have a really good following here and some of the boats present incredibly well.

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