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Me wonders. A forty foot daysailer, not much more than a cuddy cabin for the odd night on board or brief dalliance with not your wife, and going on for a million buckazoid price tag.

Hmmmmm.....

Wonder how many of these will survive the world economic downturn.
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So, here's my question - What makes these boats so expensive? I have a 24' Quickstep that has a big cockpit, and is a decent looking boat. It has a lot of teak which makes it look pretty and a canoe stern. It's well made and was reasonably priced when new. I'd like to have the same thing, just a little bigger. What I find are the Alerion express 33 which is beautiful, but $250k plus sails (and that price doesn't include the teak decks); the Morris 36 which is equally beautiful at $260k, the Sabre Spirit, somewhat less attractive than the other two at $275k. I can see some uptick to mould the traditional shapes, but at the end of the day, it's just fiberglass. What am I missing? I hope I didn't come off the wrong way. I am truly curious as to what contributes to these costs.
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To some extent these high prices reflect the cost of tooling a limited production high quality boat.

It has been my understanding that most of the non-high-volume builders expect to spread the cost of tooling a new boat over minimally something like a 100 boats. The last time I knew the cost of designing and tooling up a new design, the start-up costs were roughly the equivillent of 3-5 completed boats. In other words, over the whole production run, perhaps design and tooling represents 3% to 5% of the cost of the boat.

When you talk about limited production runs, say 20 or so boats, the cost of tooling can quickly become 15% to 25% of the cost of the boat. If you look at these daysailers, the cost of the hull, rig, hardware, ballast, engine, and basic systems cost more or less what they would on a similar length coastal cruiser, with only minimal savings in interior accomodations. Often these daysailors have custom deck fittings and labor intensive details that also add to their cost over their more mundane sisters.

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I wonder how many Friendship 40s they have produced? - in 2005 they had just released hull#1 - so I am guessing there are not many of them - anyway just from my amateur perspective - there is significant custom work done on them - not too many parts ordered from West Marine!
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[QUOTE=Quickstep192;364501]Did it look like this?

WOw! I want two!
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and here are some more inticing shots: Friendship Yacht Company
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what a pretty vessel.

I looked at the pictures, what a pretty boat.

Not quite something that is either in my price range, nor has the practicality that I want as an intended live-aboard.
But wow!

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The Friendship 53 is not exactly ugly either.
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I looked at the pictures, what a pretty boat.

Not quite something that is in my price range,
Don't feel bad.
Your not alone on this.
There are very few that boat falls into their price range.
Maybe Dad and Cam, and I almost forgot Labatt
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[QUOTE=tdw;366066]Me wonders. A forty foot daysailer, not much more than a cuddy cabin for the odd night on board or brief dalliance with not your wife, and going on for a million buckazoid price tag. T

The price not withstanding, ya might wanna check out the gallery on the Friendship site. Looks like a bit more than a cuddy cabin to me.
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