Well Mounted Outboard - SailNet Community
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 29 Old 12-10-2008 Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
davidpm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Madison
Posts: 3,957
Thanks: 235
Thanked 61 Times in 52 Posts
Rep Power: 8
 
Well Mounted Outboard

I would like to know all the advantages and disadvantages of bracket mounted vs. well mounted outboards.

Well Advantage over Outboard
  • Prop More likely to be in the water in a seaway.
  • Less likely to be stolen
  • Less likely to be damaged backing up
  • May be easier to reach
Well Disadvantage over Outboard
  • Takes up locker space
  • Harder or impossible to take out of water
  • Turbulence around hull hole slows boat down.
  • May Smell More
What did I miss or get wrong?
davidpm is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 29 Old 12-10-2008
Telstar 28
 
sailingdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 43,290
Thanks: 0
Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts
Rep Power: 14
         
Disadvantages over a transom mounted outboard:

Engine may not work as well due to less air flow.

Boat may not be as maneuverable due to well restricting/preventing outboard from being used to steer.

May be more difficult to reach, depending on the well design.

May be more difficult to start the outboard in a well due to limited space to pull the starter cord.

May suffer from more corrosion related problems, since engines in wells are often not able to be lifted clear of the water—where outboards on some brackets can lift clear of the water.

Possibly greater risk of exhaust getting into boat, depending on well design.

More difficult to remove rope or line from outboard if prop gets wrapped

More drag due to the outboard not being lifted clear of the water.

Advantages:


Engine head is more protected from elements and salt water.

Engine less likely to get swamped

Sailingdog

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Telstar 28
New England

You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.

—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)

If you're new to the Sailnet Forums... please read this
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.

Still—DON'T READ THAT POST AGAIN.
sailingdog is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #3 of 29 Old 12-11-2008
Senior Member
 
sailboy21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: SE Alaska
Posts: 722
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 10
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sailingdog View Post

Advantages:

Engine head is more protected from elements and salt water.

Engine less likely to get swamped
I would argue both of those. I have owned two boats with transom hung outboards and never got close to swamping them. Reason being you simply can't use them in any sort of sea, so they sit in their up & retracted positions. With a well mounted OB you might be able to use it in bigger seas which could result in the well getting filled up so to speak...

On the protection from the elements... rain is outboard friendly. UV is irrelevant other than for cosmetics on any quality outboard. Plus, I bet transom hung outboards get fresh water rinsed and flushed by their owners a lot more. But that is just a guess.
sailboy21 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #4 of 29 Old 12-11-2008
Just another Moderator
 
Faster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: New Westminster, BC
Posts: 16,518
Thanks: 104
Thanked 309 Times in 299 Posts
Rep Power: 10
     
I think all outboards should be well-mounted..... otherwise they may fall off..

Seriously, though....

Quote:
Originally Posted by sailingdog View Post
Disadvantages over a transom mounted outboard:

Engine may not work as well due to less air flow.
This is very true.. have seen people needing to run snorkels to the engine cowling to get enough air to run the motor reliably.

Wet, noisy & splashy if it's a cockpit well, if it's a lazarette well you're dealing with the air issue, access, etc.

Aesthetically, though, well mounted wins hands down.. nothing spoils the lines of a pretty little boat like an outboard perched on the transom.

Ron

1984 Fast/Nicholson 345 "FastForward"

".. there is much you could do at sea with common sense.. and very little you could do without it.."
Capt G E Ericson (from "The Cruel Sea" by Nicholas Monsarrat)

Last edited by Faster; 12-11-2008 at 12:51 AM.
Faster is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #5 of 29 Old 12-11-2008
Senior Member
 
poopdeckpappy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: San Diego
Posts: 6,091
Thanks: 34
Thanked 41 Times in 35 Posts
Rep Power: 10
   
Quote:
Originally Posted by davidpm View Post
I would like to know all the advantages and disadvantages of bracket mounted vs. well mounted outboards.

Well Advantage over Outboard
  • Prop More likely to be in the water in a seaway.
  • even with a long or Xlong shaft they still come out of the water, depending on conditions
  • Less likely to be stolen
  • maybe
  • Less likely to be damaged backing up
  • LOL true
  • May be easier to reach
  • True and that's could be a biggie
Well Disadvantage over Outboard
  • Takes up locker space
  • If you have a well, the space is already lost, also depending on transom, most likely worthless space anyhow
  • Harder or impossible to take out of water
  • Not at all
  • Turbulence around hull hole slows boat down.
  • not noticable, and only a 1 knot loss with motor in place under sail
  • May Smell More
  • True unless you get one the exhaust thru the hub, then not so much
What did I miss or get wrong?
_________________

1955 Blanchard 51 Custom ( I got a woody )

Lord, give me coffee to change the things I can change and Rum to accept the things I can't
poopdeckpappy is online now  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #6 of 29 Old 12-11-2008
Senior Member
 
poopdeckpappy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: San Diego
Posts: 6,091
Thanks: 34
Thanked 41 Times in 35 Posts
Rep Power: 10
   
The boat I had, the OB set in the well in such a way that the head and it's controls were easy to access. steering was done by the tiller, so there was no need to move the head, just the pull start, forward and reverse, choke and throttle was all you ever needed to touch.

Mine was easy to lift out, but I knew some people perfered motor lifts

When we first got the boat the PO had a transom mount and it was a PITA to operate it, so I cleaned up and redid the well.............big difference in the two mountings

1955 Blanchard 51 Custom ( I got a woody )

Lord, give me coffee to change the things I can change and Rum to accept the things I can't

Last edited by poopdeckpappy; 12-11-2008 at 01:17 AM. Reason: watching the new batman and not watching what I typed
poopdeckpappy is online now  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #7 of 29 Old 12-11-2008
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: West Michigan
Posts: 515
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 12
 
My portager had a transom mount, and while it worked nicely, unless you were on the port side with the motor it was awkward to maneuver. Pulling up to a dock to starboard was a real pain.
The Ariel has a well, and it's positioned in such a way that the motor controls can be easily reached from either side, so it's no problem docking at all.
I don't think the space could be considered as wasted, the well gives you a place to store fuel and a battery with the motor while keeping it out of the cabin or anywhere that the fumes could get into living space.

Also keeps the weight of the motor closer to the center of the boat, not hung way out where it has a lot of leverage.

The only drawbacks I really see is the steering, you can't crank the motor off to the side to push the stern around, and you are often limited in physical size, especially when considering a 4 stroke.

And as stated earlier, it's also more attractive to see a nice clean transom, and less attractive to thieves, simply because there's more work to get them out.

Ken.
merc2dogs is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #8 of 29 Old 12-11-2008
Senior Member
 
Lostmt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Texas
Posts: 160
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 10
 
I will not own another boat that has transon mount outboard. It will be stolen. Mine was last Sunday night. Not even a new motor. 1982 Johnson 7.5 hp 2 stroke.

Smooth water never makes a good sailor.

S/V Miss Sadie
1978 Watkins 27
Middle Texas Coast
Lostmt is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #9 of 29 Old 12-11-2008
Telstar 28
 
sailingdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 43,290
Thanks: 0
Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts
Rep Power: 14
         
Did you have a lock on it??
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lostmt View Post
I will not own another boat that has transon mount outboard. It will be stolen. Mine was last Sunday night. Not even a new motor. 1982 Johnson 7.5 hp 2 stroke.

Sailingdog

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Telstar 28
New England

You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.

—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)

If you're new to the Sailnet Forums... please read this
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.

Still—DON'T READ THAT POST AGAIN.
sailingdog is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #10 of 29 Old 12-11-2008
Senior Member
 
Lostmt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Texas
Posts: 160
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 10
 
Bolt cutters A lock only keeps the honest man honest.

Smooth water never makes a good sailor.

S/V Miss Sadie
1978 Watkins 27
Middle Texas Coast
Lostmt is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Outboard motor controls waltzingmatilda Gear & Maintenance 3 05-05-2010 09:08 AM
Caring for the Cruising Outboard Doreen Gounard Gear and Maintenance Articles 0 04-22-2003 08:00 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome