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post #21 of 33 Old 02-18-2012
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Wow J!
I decided to build my own after I saw another woman building her own. I started doing the research and found CLC. It seemed to me, like it was the most effective way to quickly build a strong and sturdy small boat. I absolutley love the idea and can hardly wait to both begin, and finish my first project.

After I made my post on this forum, I found your thread. Alors, I hope you have as much fun in your endeavor, as I plan to! I applaud you!

Fair winds!

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Pretty cool. Buiulding and launching your own boat is a unique thrill.
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Re: Building/modifying sailing kayak?

I like Kayaking, Windsurfing, and Sailing ,,,
but at 70, I get bored ( tired) paddling, can't windsurf in much breeze, and can't sail if no wind..
SOOOooo kinda thinking about trying to build a hull that will semi do it all
( albeit probably not very well).
There are a lot of half baked ideas rumbling around in my meager mind, but would sure like to hear any opinions about the idea, before walking the plank.
Thanks, Swak.
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Re: Building/modifying sailing kayak?

There are a variety of generic rigs for kayaks and canoes. Google it. Some use outriggers for stability. Yahoo has a good sailng canoe forum. The WoodenBoat Forum has plenty of threads on sail and oar boats, a few on sailing canoes. I think CLC has kits for kayaks that take rigs. I think Hobie makes a kayak/trimaran. Happy hunting.
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Re: Building/modifying sailing kayak?

I've looked at most, but don't find Sail, Windsurfer, Kayak combined.
Obviously each is a very different craft, but maybe the combination is not impossible.
Is the following a good order of design criteria?
Features and Uses in order of importance.
1) Full Flotation safety ( Shape from foam billet like surfboards are.)
Laminate in several Spline/Trusses for longitudinal strength.
2) Kayak paddling primary use ( to make sure you can get home.)
3) Sail skiff ( Easier to sail sitting than standing)
4) Wind surfer ( Fun, and I like the "going along" while "Standing up " feeling.
( Wider beam for sailing = lower performance (more stable) wind surfer)
5) Rigging quick and easy adaptable between Sail and Wind Surfer.
( How to vary SA for uses and Wind speed? This is a real quandary. )
6) Self storing of all components. Easily - Simple ?
7) Flush-Deck Hatches easy fittable, detachable, connected (don't float away)
8) CB and mast step movable along CL to balance CLE and CLR.
9) CarTop easy load and unload. What maximum weight target?
10) Would be nice to have a Cockpit that would allow stretching out for a snooze, ( but maybe that would be stretching it?)
11) This isn't a high performance craft, but would be good for weekend voyaging, so storage should be considered.
12) Fishing Rod management? ( Adapt or custom?)
What else?
((((Obviously, Cup Holders are essential ?))))
( Sounds like the only thing left out is the "kitchen sink", and all the ideas may be too ambitious? I've done a hand sketch that seems to work, and will post when I convert to a CAD drawing. )
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Re: Building/modifying sailing kayak?

I'll be interested to see your sketches. I don't think you can have all of that in one boat. The biggest limit is cartopping. Many small designs can camp-cruise, perform well, usually row instead of paddle. But with speed, stability and comfort come size. My Melonseed Skiff is a great, fast, stable, easily handled boat. She rows well, sets up and stows quickly. But she cannot be cartopped, unless you're a gorilla. Sharpies and dories will also fill many of these needs, but again can't be cartopped. I guess a canoe with outriggers can do all of those things, particularly if the outriggers are inflatable. Good luck.
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Re: Building/modifying sailing kayak?

I started out thinking of a 14' LOA x 5'4" B Sailing / rowing skiff, but that gets to big for windsurfing and I prefer paddling to rowing.
Current thinking is 12' LOA- 3' B -12" Depth,, kind of a big surfboard with CB, and cockpit 6" or 8" deep w/ self storing, hatches to provide a flush deck.

What would you think max. car top weight for hull only should be ?
( sails , spars, rudder and rigging would self store, but would be removable to facilitate handling.)
It occurs to me that plenty of flush handles would greatly facilitate car topping. Most boats don't have good places to grab onto.

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Re: Building/modifying sailing kayak?

It depends in part on the vehicle and heavily on the sailor. When I was 30 I could cartop a boat that was way over 100 lbs. Now I can just do one under a hundred, and really prefer 50 lbs or less. I cartop a hundred lb boat spring and fall, once each way. I wouldn't do it every week. Wheels for the hull help, a roller on the back of the vehicle roof helps. Trailers are easier.
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Re: sailing a Long Haul Maek II with a 36' HP Sport BSD Sail.

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Perfect combination.

This is the story of the first 76.4 miles water journey paddling and sailing our new Long Haul Mark II Commando folding kayak in the beautiful and quite challenging Everglades National Park. Enjoy!
"Letters from the Black Sea - 2012" is a new video of the Long Haul Mark Ii Commando folding kayak sailing on the Black Sea. The video is posted on Vimeo
"50826642"

This is the story of the first Long Haul Mark II Commando folding kayak that went to Europe for a 12 day journey in the Danube Delta and on the Black Sea. The 149 nautical miles adventure takes the Two Nomads from Murighiol in the Danube Delta to the ancient port of Tomis on the Black Sea. Echoing thoughts of the Roman poet Ovid, who was exiled to the ancient port of Tomis, this 76 minute video diary takes you on a ride aboard their kayak... Enjoy!
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Re: sailing a Long Haul Maek II with a 36' HP Sport BSD Sail.

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"Letters from the Black Sea - 2012" is a new video of the Long Haul Mark Ii Commando folding kayak sailing on the Black Sea. The video is posted on Vimeo
"50826642"

This is the story of the first Long Haul Mark II Commando folding kayak that went to Europe for a 12 day journey in the Danube Delta and on the Black Sea. The 149 nautical miles adventure takes the Two Nomads from Murighiol in the Danube Delta to the ancient port of Tomis on the Black Sea. Echoing thoughts of the Roman poet Ovid, who was exiled to the ancient port of Tomis, this 76 minute video diary takes you on a ride aboard their kayak... Enjoy!
The most recent sailing/paddling trip to the Everglades of our LH folding kayak aka the "U-boat"

On Vimeo "57174193"

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