Words fail me.

[Hillster]

Originally Posted by souljour2000

Okay...parade float or not... didn't a couple pinnaces and a carrack that weren't much different looking than that thing cross the ocean blue in 1492? The more I think about the tubs that made it across in those days the more I want to try for the east-west Atlantic record in a bathtub with a mast and sail tacked into the drain hole...lol...not!

Columbus' fleet consisted of two caravels and a carrack. The Pinnace was a Dutch galleon designed for commercial trade (merchantman) from about 120 years later.

[Matvolver]

Paulo, sorry I've been busy with school and haven't gotten on the forums lately - I see you're a traditionalist! That's kool, and the pics of those boats rock! I really like the Renard, wonder if it could be shrunk just a little?

Thanks for the pics!
Matt

[knotted]

know I'm late to the party.... but Mat you might be interested in a design by William Garden, of a boat he called 'Privateer", which I saw in one of his books (Yacht Designs of William Garden). He described it as 'An Ancient Dream Ship'! He describes Privateer as "a little vessel in the ancient manner and based upon a nebulous concept of how things might have been, a time machine to transport us back to letters of marque and the days when a misty headland on the horizon would shelter some vast, unknown inlet with white headaches, lots to eat, and not a political thought in the minds of the kindly inhabitants".

If you make landfall at this location, please be sure to post full and complete sailing instructions so the rest of us can find it!

So there she is, (no pics I'm afraid; perhaps someone, somewhere can find some, I couldn't) not quite a single hander perhaps but possibly could be set up that way, she has a length on deck of 30 ft, and LWL of 25 ft. In the second edition of his book, he showed a somewhat similar but smaller (611 sq ft SA vs 885 sq ft for Privateer) boat he called 'Caravelle', which I haven't seen. Might even be more suitable...

[ilikerust]

I like "Swiftsure" by John Welsford:



Don't know if anyone has actually built one yet. I assume that if someone did, he would have pics of it on his site. As there are none, I'll assume no one has taken up the challenge yet.

[PCP]

Last year I have toured (by car) England and I passed the night in Polperro, an old smuggler and fishing village. The place is interesting but has a kind of cartoon like appearance and that extends to boats that look odd. Perhaps it is just my eyes Take a look:

[tdw]

Gee those Burnett designs are nice looking craft.

Here's a couple that might ring a bell with you Paulo. From the maritime museum in Lisbon.

[PCP]

Yes Andrews, there are some nice boats there . Do you know that from all those miniatures they have a complete set of plans that they will give it to you by almost the money that it will cost to print them? The idea is to make it easy to everyone that wants to build a traditional boat. That way they will never die

Some more from the same place:

This one is a Canoa. It was my first boat. I had modified it (put the ballast outside and make the keel a bit bigger) and made almost all the Portuguese coast with it (in a 80 years old boat):



That's a Falua:



That's a Lancha de Peniche (I live near Peniche):



That's a Traineira de Peniche (to catch sardines)



That's a Galé:



And that's a Baleeira, from Açores (to catch wales):



Regards

Paulo

[tdw]

Wonderful.

A truely magical place that museum. I have never been to one that is superior.

[PCP]

Originally Posted by Matvolver

ooo, forgot about this thread. Paulo, I did mean XVII Century

I also meant what I said about being able to be sailed by only 1-2 people. Why couldn't someone build a boat with a hull that looks like 17th century, but with a 20th century sailing rig?

But those boats by Burnett do look good! And mitie, thanks for the post on Covey! My Nana was from Nova Scotia, I've been wanting to get up there and see her folks for a while now. It was really kool to see boats from there

Matt,

You are 30 years late but you can still find some traditional old boats in Portugal, some with a ocean going ability. In the last years I had knowledge of some that have made ocean passages and some that even traveled to Brazil.

I say 30 years later because 30 years ago you could still find lots of them abandoned on the river banks and that could be recovered for almost nothing. I have recovered one of them, a small one (25ft) and that was my first sailboat .

Some photos of traditional Portuguese boats:













Regards

Paulo

[PCP]

Great looking boat:







Now, take a look at the size of the crew