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Hi Fish could you also please send the Fortune PDF's to ivewon@aol.com. Much appreciated
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Hi Fish could you also please send the Fortune PDF's to ivewon@aol.com. Much appreciated
Done. Documents are on their way.......
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I've got a couple of magazine articles from “back in the day" featuring the Fortune 30 that include accommodation / sail plan drawings as well. They're PDF's so I can't upload them here but if you're interested let me know your email address I'll forward them.
I would love to see the articles Please lhunt29@yahoo.com

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As a proud owner of a Fortune 30, I can tell you she can almost keep up to an Ontario 32 and a Tartan 31 in 10 - 20 knot winds. In 20 - 30 knot winds she can hold her own. We have sailed with these boats up and down the Strait for several years now. She likes a beam reach and is rather quick with her spinnaker up.
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Yes I did. I was poor and I was hungry and I wanted to design boats. I worked on many ferro cement designs for Jay. I did not like it but I had to eat. I would watch Jay sell plans to couples who you know had a 1 in 65.2% chance of ever completing a boat and if they did it was probably a piss poor design that Jay had cobbled together. I felt bad. I'd have to go out and check their loifting and sometimes it was pathetic.

I probably should keep my mouth shut and be courteous but that's not my style. I prefer the truth. Whatever I say here today I will say here again tomorrow amd challenge anyone to prove me wrong. I'm 65 now and I'll be damned if I'm going to start lieing now.

Since the death of my son my patience has run thin with the BS of wankers. John I appreciate you giving me the chance to tell my end of the story. That's all it is. The way I saw it. As a very wise man once said, "I could be wrong. But I'm not, No I'm not."
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You sound a lot like me. I design machinery, and when I'm done I am always sure I can do better. Someone said something about me being a "Cancer Survivor" the other day, I have or maybe had prostate cancer. But I don't feel like a survivor, it seemed more like it happened to someone else. However like you I found myself no longer tolerant of people that waste my time. A co-wanker in particular I just walk out on after a few minutes of useless blather. My poor tongue is so sore from not telling my boss what I really think. I suspect it is only matter of time before I get canned for saying it.

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I hear you. I was diagnosed with prostate cancer three years ago but when I got in to see the specialist he said "You have prostatitis. Go home and take these pills." Meanwhile I had spent three weeks thinking I was dieing.

Hope yours went away like mine.

I've been dealing with an idiot tonight.
A woman wants me to tell her the headroom and berth length on the Valiant 32. I told her I designed that boat over 30 years ago. I did not memorize it. She said "Maybe I thought you had those numbers at your finger tips."
Maybe this finger.

I suggested to her that if she wanted detailed , accurate info on that boat she should become a consultation client and pay for my services.

I got some lippy **** back from her.
I'm always happy to help when people recognize my efforts over the years and that now at 65 years of age I am a true professional.

Holy Cow! what do I have to do?

So inoder to make myseklf feel better I emailed another guy back, who wanted info on a boat I did not dfesign and I gave him free lifetime consultation.

He'll probably email me back and say, "No thanks."
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I hear you. I was diagnosed with prostate cancer three years ago but when I got in to see the specialist he said "You have prostatitis. Go home and take these pills." Meanwhile I had spent three weeks thinking I was dieing.

Hope yours went away like mine.

I've been dealing with an idiot tonight.
A woman wants me to tell her the headroom and berth length on the Valiant 32. I told her I designed that boat over 30 years ago. I did not memorize it. She said "Maybe I thought you had those numbers at your finger tips."
Maybe this finger.

I suggested to her that if she wanted detailed , accurate info on that boat she should become a consultation client and pay for my services.

I got some lippy **** back from her.
I'm always happy to help when people recognize my efforts over the years and that now at 65 years of age I am a true professional.

Holy Cow! what do I have to do?

So inoder to make myseklf feel better I emailed another guy back, who wanted info on a boat I did not dfesign and I gave him free lifetime consultation.

He'll probably email me back and say, "No thanks."
Bob, me too - I think it must happen to all of us geezers. My wife keeps whispering "remember your Karma" when I start bitching - in my case, usually about timid, dithery, incompetent drivers.

By the way, does anyone know how old you have to be to legitimately be referred to as a Curmudgeon? I always wanted to be a curmudgeonly old man but I'm not even 60 yet.

I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
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Bob,
No such luck, they shoved the telephone pole with crossarms where the sun don't shine, then sent in the Davinci robot to rearrange the plumbing and leave out a couple of parts. They tell me the hull is still good, the seacocks still work, and I can still hoist a flag. But not too sure about distance races yet. Could be worse. If I could get the damn boat in the water it could be a lot better though!

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Anybody know who the builder would've been on a 1985 vintage Fortune? We're looking at one right now, and are trying to figure out a little it of the history. Another Fortune owner we've talked to mentioned they had to do a big osmotic blister repair job. Any other blister experiences from owners out there? thanks


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Anybody know who the builder would've been on a 1985 vintage Fortune? We're looking at one right now, and are trying to figure out a little it of the history. Another Fortune owner we've talked to mentioned they had to do a big osmotic blister repair job. Any other blister experiences from owners out there? thanks
It might have been Philbrooks but that is pretty late to have been pro built. I've never heard of a blister problem with them but I also haven't owned one.
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