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We met some Aussies in the South Pacific who had a fold-up platform. It looked good and was quite practical when anchored for getting into and out of the dink.
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The getting torn off issue occurred to me as well, but with as many powerboats that have them that go out in open water, I didn't know if it was a practical concern, or a "once in a million" concern.

Seems like it would work for coastal/near offshore, but not something to have on a primarily open water boat.
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This is what we are thinking of adding to the Womboat. My only worry to be frank would be noise from waves slapping up underneath.



This is the stern of Raven. To my mind preferable to platform but is a bit slappy at anchor.



Personally I'd be happy with an open stern even though yes a pooping might be , would be, more likely but the open stern beats the hell out of even the very best cockpit drains.
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I'm not sure if I'm just lucky, or picky on my weather windows, but I've yet to come close to a pooping. With a sugarscoop though, I prefer a walkthrough, just to keep things from sliding out the back.
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Of course if you add one of those fold-up ones, you'll need to re-paint the boat name on the underside so it shows when the platform is up.
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We had a fixed swim step on our Northsea 34. It was small, only about 2.5' across and maybe 1' deep. It made getting into and out of the dinghy a breeze. It was a bolt on from the factory, not sure if it would survive breaking seas on it. It was solid, cutting some slots in it would help I'm sure. For coastal sailing it was great.

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Oddly enough, having one would make getting in my Walker Bay dinghy harder. As it is, I use the crossbar on the davits to step into the center, where with a platform, I'd have to go in over the side. Not a problem with an inflatable, but not as easy with a hard dinghy.

I would definitely have slots in one, if I put one on.
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One thought is that getting pooped is more "lethal" on a sugarscoop / swim platform.
Why is getting pooped with a sugarscoop stern more lethal? It seems that pooping comes in two parts...first the impact which might break things or sweep people overboard, followed by the second, which is the need to clear the water off the boat before the next wave hits. The open sugarscoop stern will clear the water much faster than a pair of cockpit drains. (On my 19 ft. fishing boat, I had a situation where combination of waves and big wake kicked up by a big power cruiser flooded the boat and the two cockpit drains, about the same size as those on most sailboats took quite a time in removing the water that was collected.) And most people don't realize, but it doesn't take much water above the deck in the cockpit area to begin to affect stability, so you want to clear it quickly. So far as being washed overboard, this is more a issue for tethers and harnesses. And things breaking would be a function of how strong/rugged the boat build is.

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Re: Just wondering

This was something that I did to my Pearson 36.
My requirements were that it be completely removable but it also needed to be tough enough to have me never question the footing.




This was the original plan I roughed out with pintels and gudgeons. Pad Eyes for the cable supports. The material was a plastic floor grate for a commercial kitchen. It was given to me as an oval and I cut it to meet my needs.



Now I have small kids and I'm in the process of rebuilding bigger and stronger. I'm going with a 1" SS tubing welded at most joints, decked over with something like 1/2" AZEK. The tentative plan is for a hinge system so it can flip up. It will look chunky but with the boat on a mooring, the whole family boarding via dingy and little ones that are like fish so far, it's got to be done.

I'll look and see if I can find some of the research pic's I've snapped of other designs I've seen.
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Re: Just wondering

Found them. Here are some more pic's I've snapped of other designs as I creep the docks in different ports.








Again they are all more static and I really want something that can fold up. The 2.0 version will have a pull out ladder too. I'll post the plans and pics this spring as I build it.
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