Why would they do this? - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Boat Review and Purchase Forum > Sailboat Design and Construction
 Not a Member? 


Like Tree1Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 08-17-2012
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: B.C.
Posts: 107
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 3
Agri is on a distinguished road
Why would they do this?

Sailing dingy custom made by Holden Marine Central Saanich, Victoria

I'm assuming the appendage on the boat in the above ad is the daggerboard. Why would you put it on a swivel on the starboard side. If your heeled over to port won't it be useless? Am I missing something?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 08-17-2012
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: near San Jose, CA
Posts: 29
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 0
scotthenry is on a distinguished road
Re: Why would they do this?

That is a leeboard, quite common on small sailing dinghies, including some one-designs (like the Sabot). The boats are intended to be sailed as flat as possible (by moving skipper/crew weight around), so it coming out of the water tends to not be much of an issue.

Larger vessels (look for info on "sharpies") frequently use 2 leeboards, one on each side.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 08-17-2012
sea_hunter's Avatar
Senior Cruiser
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Posts: 512
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 15
sea_hunter is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Agri:910707
Sailing dingy custom made by Holden Marine Central Saanich, Victoria

I'm assuming the appendage on the boat in the above ad is the daggerboard. Why would you put it on a swivel on the starboard side. If your heeled over to port won't it be useless? Am I missing something?
It's a larboard, a traditional rig, hence the term starboard. All ships were designed this way, the port side was the docking side and did not have one. Healing over was undesirable in any event so it works just fine on ship carrying large heavy cargo.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 08-17-2012
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: B.C.
Posts: 107
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 3
Agri is on a distinguished road
Re: Why would they do this?

And now I know.

Thanks for the info.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 08-19-2012
SloopJonB's Avatar
Senior Moment Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: West Vancouver B.C.
Posts: 10,891
Thanks: 58
Thanked 55 Times in 52 Posts
Rep Power: 4
SloopJonB will become famous soon enough
Re: Why would they do this?

Quote:
Originally Posted by scotthenry View Post
That is a leeboard, quite common on small sailing dinghies, including some one-designs (like the Sabot). The boats are intended to be sailed as flat as possible (by moving skipper/crew weight around), so it coming out of the water tends to not be much of an issue.

Larger vessels (look for info on "sharpies") frequently use 2 leeboards, one on each side.
It saves all the problems and complexities of a centerboard trunk as well.
__________________
I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 08-19-2012
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 433
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
ParadiseParrot is on a distinguished road
Re: Why would they do this?

It looks Salty at Pirate fest and you will get more Rum.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 08-19-2012
SlowButSteady's Avatar
Senior Slacker
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: SoCal
Posts: 4,223
Thanks: 0
Thanked 17 Times in 15 Posts
Rep Power: 5
SlowButSteady is on a distinguished road
Re: Why would they do this?





Ted Brewer points out that they have the advantages of being easier to maintain and inspect, difficult to jam, and leaves the cabin unobstructed by CB trunk. However, most North Americans can't seem to warm up to the look of lee boards.
__________________
Never forget them. Do something to prevent it from happening again.
Charlotte Bacon, Daniel Barden, Rachel Davino, Olivia Josephine Gay, Ana M. Marquez-Greene, Dylan Hockley, Dawn Hochsprung, Madeleine F. Hsu, Catherine V. Hubbard, Chase Kowalski, Jesse Lewis, James Mattioli , Grace McDonnell, Anne Marie Murphy, Emilie Parker, Jack Pinto, Noah Pozner, Caroline Previdi, Jessica Rekos, Avielle Richman, Lauren Rousseau, Mary Sherlach, Victoria Soto, Benjamin Wheeler, Allison N. Wyatt
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #8  
Old 08-19-2012
Jeff_H's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Annapolis, Md
Posts: 6,630
Thanks: 5
Thanked 100 Times in 76 Posts
Rep Power: 10
Jeff_H has a spectacular aura about Jeff_H has a spectacular aura about Jeff_H has a spectacular aura about
Re: Why would they do this?

Quote:
Originally Posted by sea_hunter View Post
It's a larboard, a traditional rig, hence the term starboard. All ships were designed this way, the port side was the docking side and did not have one. Healing over was undesirable in any event so it works just fine on ship carrying large heavy cargo.
With all due respect to my estemed colleague, this is mostly inaccruate. Starboard comes from Scandinavian via Old English and originally meant steering board. This referred to a steering oar which predated rudders as we know them. These evolved so that they were typically carried on the right side of the stern since the ergonomics worked best with (majority) right handed helmsmen. Because these steering oars were vulnerable to damage when docking, boats of that era put into docks with the left side towards the dock. That was the origin of that side being called the "port" side. The word 'Larboard' is synomymous with the word 'port' as used for a side of the boat and thatterm also came from Norse by way of Old English and meant 'loading side'.

Neither term has much to do with a leeboard. As the name implied, leeboards were generally carried on the lee side of the boat. Bigger boats with leeboards generally carried one on each side and the weather board on each tack was either raised or hinged to slide outward (colloquially referred to as 'broken wing') while the leeward board did all the work.

Leeboards were very uncommon in ships of any era or commercial vessels except in very specific regional typeforms, such as the Dutch Jacht shown.

Jeff
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Curmudgeon at Large- and rhinestone in the rough, sailing my Farr 11.6 on the Chesapeake Bay

Last edited by Jeff_H; 08-20-2012 at 05:09 PM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #9  
Old 08-19-2012
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 433
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
ParadiseParrot is on a distinguished road
Re: Why would they do this?

I repeat. It looks Salty at Pirate fest and you will get more Rum.
Jgbrown likes this.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #10  
Old 08-19-2012
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: B.C.
Posts: 107
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 3
Agri is on a distinguished road
Re: Why would they do this?

Thanks for the pictures slowbutsteady. I concur paradiseparrot they do look salty in the pictures. When its raised it gives the boat a bit of a steampunk flair. I also have a better explanation of why port is called port to tell people rather then just saying because it has the same amount of letters as left.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:14 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.