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Heres another take on the skinny boat theme.Sydney Herreshoff's Alerion and Damian McLaughlin's build of her named Walter Greene
Looks a bit like a Skerry Cruiser.

Here's something similar from over this way - a 30 square meter with lines that could only be described as shark-like.. 42' long but less than 8' wide and goes like a rocket:





I've raced against her many times..
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Very interesting boat Harls. Wha really intrigues me is the difference in stern shape compared to the Herrshoff whicj is much finer aft. The stern of the SLIVER project is much more like you 30 sq. meter boat. That's a great looking boat.
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Nick Potter design maybe?.
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Re: Bob Perry's take on Wolfenzee's dream boat

That 30 square meter is a beautiful boat. I am always fascinated at how different designers handle double ender sterns. When you look at traditional work watercraft in North America (like Tancook Whalers or Whale boats) they seem pretty fine while Scandinavian derived sterns seem much fuller.

The 30 square meter stern almost looks like a Starling Burgess bow.

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That's a good observation Jeff and I think it comes from the designer trying to push volume into the ends of a skinny boat, bow and stern. The stern sections on the SLIVER project are very U shaped and not V shaped. The inspiration for the bow sections on the SLIVER came from Laurie Davidson's AC boat BLACK MAGIC. I did some work for Laurie during the previous AC and I was lucky enough to get a set of lines for BLACK MAGIC. The bow sections are also very U shaped.

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This a local boat here,Shes a Nick Potter 8 meter.Her stern looks much finer in shape.Did Potter design any 30 square meters?.
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"BP .... for interest's sake .... why the Valiant over the Passport ?"

Purely personal Womby. I was a partner in a Valiant 40 with my buddy Daryl. I have sailed that boat in 60 knots+. It is/was my baby. Can't abandon it now.

Just two days ago Nathan Rothman called me. He started Valiant. We were both kids, hippies trying to fake being "yachting types". But we stuck our fingers in their eyes and made it work. Fair dinkum.
You should put all that in a book sometime. Yes I know.

I'd probably still go for the Passport but then I'm a blunt end kind of guy even though that round bum makes me smile. Actually my favourite of that era Perry would have to be the aft cockpit Norseman 44.

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I'm with you TD. I also voted for the Passport. Great boat.

Almost as good as my Hunter 40.

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That 30 square meter is a beautiful boat. I am always fascinated at how different designers handle double ender sterns. When you look at traditional work watercraft in North America (like Tancook Whalers or Whale boats) they seem pretty fine while Scandinavian derived sterns seem much fuller.

The 30 square meter stern almost looks like a Starling Burgess bow.

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Close.. it's an Uffa Fox design (remember him?), tweaked by the original owner for local conditions.

With Australia having no notable ("big name") naval architects pre-WWII, people looked elsewhere - Fife, one or two Kiwis and then Laurent Giles were favorites. Uffa Fox's books on racing yacht design were also very popular out here and quite a number of people built boats to his lines straight out of the books.. Seriously.

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