Sailing 201 Quiz - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > Skills and Seamanship > Seamanship & Navigation
 Not a Member? 

Seamanship & Navigation Forum devoted to seamanship and navigation topics, including paper and electronic charting tools.


Like Tree13Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 08-05-2013
Sabreman's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Yeocomico River, VA
Posts: 1,619
Thanks: 3
Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts
Rep Power: 10
Sabreman will become famous soon enough Sabreman will become famous soon enough
Sailing 201 Quiz

Scenario
You've run aground in mud on a point. How do you get off quickly?

Conditions
No wind, can't use the engine, can't get in the water to swim an anchor or go ashore, can't call or accept help, can't wait for the tide, no current, no power boat wakes to rock you off.

Your tools
Less than 1kt wind, main, genoa, asymmetrical spinnaker, danforth anchor & rode, 6 sets of (working) hands.

You have to do something, what is it and in what order?
__________________
Sabre 38 "Victoria"
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 08-05-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 1,891
Thanks: 7
Thanked 27 Times in 24 Posts
Rep Power: 10
nolatom will become famous soon enough
Re: Sailing 201 Quiz

I'm thinking you need to heel her and kedge her off, no wind to assist. Put the assym in the water with head on halyard, clews made fast to shoreward rail. Toss anchor to seaward side, or swing it out on boom and drop with a slpknot or quick release. Tense rode to a winch, then winch on spin halyard to heel her toward shore ( a lot) and roll keel into deeper water. Lighten cargo and water tanks if necessary, and kedge off.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 08-06-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,333
Thanks: 6
Thanked 24 Times in 24 Posts
Rep Power: 4
Seaduction is on a distinguished road
Re: Sailing 201 Quiz

Grab the VHF; say "TowBoatUS; TowBoatUS; This is 'StuckindaMud', Over? Repeat till response is obtained.
kentobin likes this.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 08-06-2013
CaptainForce's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: living aboard since 1972
Posts: 1,709
Thanks: 0
Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts
Rep Power: 9
CaptainForce will become famous soon enough
Re: Sailing 201 Quiz

If it's your Sabre 38 with a 6'6" fin keel you may decide to place all your crew and weight on one rail and then the other to pry yourself off, but I would not boather to attempt getting off. Why bother! The conditions you stated were "no wind & can't use the engine". You're probably better off stuck aground than drifting off with the current and with no means of propulsion.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Take Care and Joy, Aythya Crew
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 08-06-2013
MarkofSeaLife's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 2,395
Thanks: 28
Thanked 85 Times in 69 Posts
Rep Power: 4
MarkofSeaLife is on a distinguished road
Re: Sailing 201 Quiz

Chuck the wife overboard. If that doesnt work chuck the girlfriend over too...
__________________
Sea Life
Notes on a Circumnavigation:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 08-06-2013
BarryL's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 1,637
Thanks: 3
Thanked 29 Times in 28 Posts
Rep Power: 12
BarryL is on a distinguished road
Re: Sailing 201 Quiz

Hey,

I would put the boom out and have half the crew hang on the end to heel the boat.

Barry
Flybyknight likes this.
__________________
Barry Lenoble
Deep Blue C, 2002 C&C 110
Mt. Sinai, NY

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 08-06-2013
Slayer's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: North Andover, MA
Posts: 564
Thanks: 10
Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts
Rep Power: 9
Slayer is on a distinguished road
Re: Sailing 201 Quiz

Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkofSeaLife View Post
Chuck the wife overboard. If that doesnt work chuck the girlfriend over too...
Here's to wife's and girlfriends.......may the two never meet!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #8  
Old 08-06-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,386
Thanks: 1
Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts
Rep Power: 11
capttb is on a distinguished road
Re: Sailing 201 Quiz

Easy, Form the Assy. into a bag, fill with hot air (no shortage of that here) attach to stern cleats, as the boat floats into the air you flap your arms.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #9  
Old 08-06-2013
Sabreman's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Yeocomico River, VA
Posts: 1,619
Thanks: 3
Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts
Rep Power: 10
Sabreman will become famous soon enough Sabreman will become famous soon enough
Re: Sailing 201 Quiz

Quote:
I'm thinking you need to heel her and kedge her off, no wind to assist. [...] Toss anchor to seaward side,
Quote:
I would put the boom out and have half the crew hang on the end to heel the boat.
These two are the closest to what we did. It wasn't my boat and just sitting wasn't an option nor was calling TowBoat (violation of the Conditions). What we did to get off:

1. Upon realization of grounding, immediately dropped the asymmetrical spinnaker, and released the mainsheet. The intent is to keep from grounding harder.
2. Set the genoa and backwinded it.
3. Put the boom out and hung 3 crew from it. At this point realized that the bow was starting to push a little to leeward.
4. Kept the genoa backwinded to increase the pressure on the bow and increase the pivot force. We only had <1 knot wind so all this was in slow motion.
5. Since it was now apparent that we were not stuck too hard, we decided to kedge. Dropped the Danforth about 1' aft of the pushpit and ran the rode to the port bow. Miraculously, it hooked and we moved the rode to the starboard bow to make the angle better. Two crew pulled and the boat moved a little. Reset the anchor 2 more times in the same fashion.
6. A little wind (1kt) moved the bow, and the head began to swing. Trimmed the main and we were free.

The time that elapsed from grounding to sailing was about 30 minutes, maybe less. While we messed up by grounding on a well charted point, excellent communication and crew work allowed us to get going again. Unfortunately, we lost 2 positions in the race that we were in.
__________________
Sabre 38 "Victoria"

Last edited by Sabreman; 08-06-2013 at 01:21 PM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #10  
Old 08-12-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 567
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 14
sailordave is on a distinguished road
Re: Sailing 201 Quiz

A few years ago I woke up and was eating breakfast while sitting in the cockpit of the C320 that belonged to my sailing club at the time when it dawned on me that we were NOT moving. Even though it was quite breezy. The wind had shifted during the night and we swung JUST enough to stick the wing keel on a bar.
Ended up getting off by realizing that the wind shifted every few minutes for about 30 seconds. I waited and unfurled the jib and backed it on a shift and gunned the engine when the bow turned down. Off we went.
__________________
CS 36M DIANTHUS
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Sailing 101 Quiz Flybyknight General Discussion (sailing related) 10 08-05-2013 10:29 PM
rpms quiz wsconner General Discussion (sailing related) 5 09-11-2010 08:35 AM
my quiz for all Terabanitoss Alberg 0 05-05-2007 08:44 AM
UK. Public to quiz Volvo Ocean Race skippers & crews in free Q & A session at Portsmouth stopover @ BYM Sailing News NewsReader News Feeds 0 04-21-2006 07:17 AM
The quiz Yodagwb General Discussion (sailing related) 4 02-13-2004 12:36 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:55 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.