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Re: Great Egg Harbor Shoaling

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How you guys don't faint from shear terror when transiting the Barnegat inlet is beyond my comprehension!
Had my scariest experience on a boat there. Sailing my Hobie 16 thru
in screaming wind the smooth topped rollers suddenly steepened up and started breaking! We were tubed by two. later offical reports put the breakers at 12 ft. Scary!!!!

Our best guess was the tide change had reached critical mass putting the opposing current againt the incoming wind blown rollers.

That was before the inlet was rebuilt. Still dangerous today, but a tamed puppy compared to 20 plus years ago.

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Re: Great Egg Harbor Shoaling

I grew up sailing the Great Egg inlet, and it can be exciting. The worst was when the CG ran the channel past the Longport rocks. So we had rocks to port and breakers to starboard. I ran aground once on a Carter 3/4 ton when I crewing as bowman. Interesting.

I asked the question because my Brother-in-Law swears that the channel is almost non-existent with only 9' feet at the GE buoy. Then he said that his depth sounder has been out for most of the season. So I question his "data" and seek something more definitive.

He did report significant shoaling in the channel between Ocean City and Somers Point. I believe that because when I sailed there in the 70's and 80's it was always filling in.

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Came through 6/4/13 at half tide with 15 knots of wind and three foot swell. I had no less than 18 feet through the inlet.
The coast guard moved the markers and the inlet has been dredged. The markers are now further north than before (aprox 1/2 mile)

That said, I hear from my friends that there are vast changes in the bay itself. Excessive caution is in order. And make sure your towing policy is up to date.
Thanks... great report.
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Actually I hear a report from a local PB this year that the local's channel by the Longport rockpile was a very good alternative, if not his primary access.

There was another report about the GE inlet in ActiveCaptain which was very similar to the one I quoted......

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... topped rollers suddenly steepened up and started breaking! We were tubed by two. later offical reports put the breakers at 12 ft. Scary!!!!
Please... We're trying to encourage Denise, not send her into orbit!

With proper preparation, there is no reason not to use Barney. Go through blindly, and Barney can bite, however.

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How you guys don't faint from shear terror when transiting the Barnegat inlet is beyond my comprehension!
Too right! I met a family who owns a marina just inside the inlet a few days ago and asked them about the inlet. It's no problem, they told me. Just follow the bouys. Oh, and they move the buoys every day. And the boats that go aground go this way rather than that way. And.... Crossed that one off my list.

The only two inlets on that stretch I was willing to enter were Atlantic City and Cape May. Why would you want to risk any of the other inlets (unless you are local)? Why not just wait for good weather and overnight that stretch of coast?
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Re: Great Egg Harbor Shoaling

If you call SeaTow or TowBoatUS and get the info on Barnegat or GE, why not use them if you have the depth and the conditions permit?

For me, it was just as easy to use the AC inlet as it was to use Barnegat as I transited north, but my boat only needs 3'10" (and we bumped bottom a few times in the ICW).
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If you call SeaTow or TowBoatUS and get the info on Barnegat or GE, why not use them if you have the depth and the conditions permit?
Personally, did not think it was worth the risk when the coast could be tackled in a 24 hour run.

Locals give me inaccurate or incomplete information all the time. Just too easy to make a fatal mistake in a tricky inlet so I will avoid them if I can. Safer offshore

The risk tolerance and experience of others might be greater.
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Still dangerous today, but a tamed puppy compared to 20 plus years ago.
Growing up in OC, I saw the inlet in all kinds of conditions. Now, as then, I would not enter if it was blowing over 20 kts. Since I have been gone so long, I would not enter at night BUT... TRUE STORY..

My first date with Vicky, (my future bride, current boat's namesake) was a night sail in 1978 out of OC into the ocean on my dad's '77 Catalina 30. She was (and continues) to be 30 minutes late for everything and we didn't get to the boat until somewhere around 8PM. We sailed with two other friends (who also married and are still together, BTW) out past the GE buoy and finally got back to the dock around 1130 PM. The girl married me and the boat didn't break so the inlet couldn't have been that bad. My dad was nuts for letting a 19 yo kid take his new boat out in the ocean at night.....but that's another story.

Great Egg inlet isn't that bad if the buoys are followed, but I doubt that the CG moves them every day. But they are moved often as there is a CG station in OC, so they have a vested interest in keeping the inlet open.

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Tsunami-like wave in N.J. being investigated | NJ.com

BARNEGAT — A six-foot wave that crashed through Barnegat Inlet and swept three people off a jetty and into the water earlier this month is being investigated as a possible tsunami by federal officials, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

The June 13 wave was observed at over 30 tide gauges and a buoy throughout the northwestern Atlantic Ocean, according to a report on NOAA’s website.
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