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5hortBu5 08-31-2013 12:33 PM

Best knot to attach a painter to a mooring ball?
 
My boat lives on a mooring, and on days when club traffic is really slow, I can usually take a the club's little Sundancer skiff or rowboat out to the ball, hook the dinghy there, do my sailing, and pick up the dink on the way in. Saves me having to waste a bunch of time docking up.

A couple times, however, I've noticed the painter for the dinghy had worked itself alarmingly loose, and I feel that if I'd been out a couple more hours, I'd have found the thing on the shore instead of my ball.

My go-to knot for attaching a painter to a ball has been a round turn and two (or three or four) half hitches, but it seems that the action of wave and wake always works those half hitches out over time. Does anyone have a better knot for really locking that painter down so I can go for a sail without the anxiety of losing the club's boat?

BoatyardBoy 08-31-2013 12:45 PM

Re: Best knot to attach a painter to a mooring ball?
 
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Bowline.. Or better yet a Bowline with a big clip on the end. Like a safety clip(crap I can't think of the name right now) that climbers use. Caribiner? But definitely a Bowline, easy to tie and easy to untie. And it won't come loose.

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Grunthrie 08-31-2013 12:46 PM

Re: Best knot to attach a painter to a mooring ball?
 
bowline. It's a very secure knot and allows you to leave the loop whatever size you like so you have room to work it loose easily and the chafing factor is reduced because the knot has room to move. And they're fun to tie.

FlyingJunior 08-31-2013 12:54 PM

Best knot to attach a painter to a mooring ball?
 
Bowline plus stopper knot on the loose end, just for extra security

bblument 08-31-2013 01:03 PM

Re: Best knot to attach a painter to a mooring ball?
 
I'm certainly no expert, and I love bowlines as much as the next guy. One of the reasons I love them is because, as sturdy and reliable as they are when under load, they're equally easy to untie when NOT under load. That quality would worry me when used to secure something where the load goes from strong to none repeatedly. The other posters mentioned using a bowline with a stopper knot or some other backup.. that'd probably be fine.

I like buntline hitches a lot; they don't release under no-load situations, and get more secure the more the load increases.

Buntline Hitch - How to tie a Buntline Hitch

They can be tough to untie, but not terrible. I've taken to taking a loop through as the final step when tying it, rather than the entire working end; it becomes sort of a "slip buntline" that can be untied with a single pull, but still seems just as secure as a regular buntline. That's what I use on my fenders now.

Just an idea. I'm really new, so don't take my advice without other research and experimentation.

Barry

manatee 08-31-2013 01:10 PM

Re: Best knot to attach a painter to a mooring ball?
 
Here's one :

Buntline hitch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Brion Toss has a locking bowline in his book,

Locked bowline pictured
Chapman Knots for Boaters - Brion Toss - Google Books

You could also use a double becket backed with 2 half-hitches.

Knot reference website: Rope Knots - Best Knots Animated and Illustrated


Fair winds & tight lines.
Gary


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