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I can see no reason not to store the outboard gas can in the propane locker!?!?
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One good reason to keep gasoline out of propane lockers is density.
Propane is heavier than air - and vents out of the mandatory BOTTOM vent drain of propane lockers.
Gasoline fumes are lighter than air - and will not disperse through the bottom propane vent drain, but will collect in the locker.

Occasionally the experts, like those at ABYC, get it more-or-less right.
Occasionally the ignorant boat-owner, who “sees no reason ...”, gets it somewhat wrong - and sometimes BOOM !
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MY APOLOGIES - eveyone else was right - and I was wrong. Gasoline vapours are heavier than air.
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I concur with GordMay''s opinion that gasoline "VAPORS" can be lighter than air, therefore require a vented cover if enclosed in a compartment. Anchor & propane lockers do not meet this requirement.

Our outboard jerry can is stored in one of two teak benches, secured to the teak aft deck over fixed chocks. The bench lids are also constructed of teak, grated for ventilation of gas vapors. Additionally, there are drain holes in the bench bases, which promote a natural convection cycle.

We do have a dedicated propane locker within a side deck, but keep a spare propane bottle in the other aft deck bench locker. I would recommend that you keep the gas can out in the open, if a top-vented compartment is unavailable.

Edit after GordMays next reply - Gasoline vapors are lighter than propane, slightly heavier that air, but require air flow for total elimination of explosive vapors. Therefore, it is important that the cover be vented.

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Not to belabor this beaten topic . . . but consider what happens to the drain hole of an anchor locker if the rode is similar to mine. We have 150 ft of 5/16" G4 chain but spliced to that is another 200 ft of 5/8 three-strand.

My guess is the nylon rope may impede air flow to the drain hole enough to create a hazadous situation . . . especially with the risk of a spark caused by an electrical fault in the vertical windlass wiring.

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Just re-read this string of questions and ****-sure but dead-wrong answers and it seems to lead right back to the original question: Why can't gasoline be stored in the propane locker? This time, posed to those that actually know please?

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I concur.
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After 22 years as a figherfighter I can tell you both propane and gasoline are considerably heavier the air, I for one plan to carry them together. Has anyone contacted the Coast Guard to see how they would react to finding such a situation?

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When I first initiated this thread I did so based on second hand advise I was given. In my harbor, the county police operate a boat and patrol the area. It was from one of the officers on that watch that suggested putting the gas can in the propane locker.

At this point, no one here has given a plausible reason why this practice is not acceptable. My gas can goes in the propane locker until someone can tell me why not.
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Where to keep the outboard gas can

Many boats have anchor lockers in the bow, sealed off from belowdecks and with overboard drains; their lids are also less than air tight. If the weight isn''t a bother, I would think that would make a safe alternate storage location, in addition to the propane locker.

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