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post #41 of 47 Old 01-13-2007
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Oh my god! I don't think I'll ever be able to sleep again at anchor after reading some of the opinions on this thread. I can see it now, 15 ft depth (bottom to roller) with 105 ft of rode out there on a flat night. I'm having nightmares already. Thanks for some of the good advice here, hopefully some of it will be practiced.

The "book" says optimal holding power is achieved at 7:1, now throw away the book. If you have an undersized anchor and light rode, no amount of rode will hold you. You'll see these guys backing down all over the anchorage and not setting their hook using ground tackle that's too light. Always trouble when the night winds pick up. The more iron you can put down, in lbs, the better off you'll be. There's a lot of good anchors out there, none will work if they're not the right size + for the boat.

What's the right anchor and rode? Simple, the right ground tackle it that which will hold you in place in all conditions possible within the cruising ground without causing potential harm (or anxiety) to the occupants of the anchoring boat or others within the anchorage, have back-ups, and know by practice what will work. To use a "book" formula for anchor and rode and setting procedures without practice is disaster.

Anchor, chain, nylon rode, come in different sizes and weights, and different combinations will produce different results. If you don't have the right tackle for the anchorage - don't go there til you do.
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When we had our IP (20'chain), it ran around the anchor like a tethered horse because of all the windage, so we took to anchoring by the stern which eliminated all the dancing, making it as docile as our B-29 anchored normally. Andrew B-29/105
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Hey--it's your boat. You're the Captain, so anchor it however you want. If you have the space and the desire to clean the rhode, do it to it!
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A proper rode and anchor combination should give a nearly horizontal pull on the anchor shank at the recommended scope. Adding excessive scope should not make any difference. Furthermore, who has time for such additional operations when anchoring?

If it doesn't hold at 7:1 (or maybe less), then I'd do some serious thinking about why and re-rig ground tackle accordingly.
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But last weekend was the funniest one yet. A guy comes into a cove in a Macgregor 26...
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That's priceless. I hate to say it but I NEVER anchor next to a MAC26. Ever. Now everyone know's why.

Is it just me, or are the preppy boat snobs out in force this season? Are Merit, Columbia Yachts, and anything else with a centerboard/daggerboard in your make fun of list too?
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hey now... Preppy snobs?
Phhht, Jeeves, bring my whine!
(we jest about here quite a bit) Mac's get their share, as well as cat/bene/jene's too.
Theres even some toad in portugal that thinks he's better than everybody else so he built his own damn boat. Well screw him I say, I'm not giving up my 5 gal. bucket of concrete for anybody.

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One reason MacGregor's get quite a bit of a shellacking is that some of the people who own them aren't really sailors—they're powerboaters with pretensions of sailing... that combined with the less than stellar sailing characteristics of the MacGregor 26 make it a huge target. That said, there are some excellent sailors that I know that own them...

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