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I was out at the lake today and I am still afloat but I would guess there are over a hundred boats still in their slips and many of them look like that are on the bottom (leaning over).

Some of the boat have set up slings to hang their boats in. Usually two large straps one under the bow (close to the mast) and one under the stern (about mid cockpit). Are there any problems hang a boat like this over a long period of time (assuming the slip can hold it up)?

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"Lake Hefner is a reservoir in northwestern Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. It was built in 1947 to expand the water supply for the city of Oklahoma City. "
Apparently there is an active boaters association there and you are either at the mercy of the city of OK City or the concessionaire, if those docks are a concession. What does your lease (or whatever you have) say? If you are just incidental uses of a reservoir and there are no terms governing the use, you may have no rights. But surely there are terms?
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If you're not going to haul, I'd be looking at some legs ala the article on Sailnet. The only negative to that strap idea is that I won't be there to observe the consequences when the water drops further. Sounds like a good way to simulate hurricane damage without leaving Oklahoma. If it does work out, please post photos and specs; hanging my boat on my neighbors fence would free up a lot of room in my driveway.
I would let it rest on bottom with the keel cranked up. In all likelyhood that is how it would be sitting on a trailer, so the pressure on the keel would be the same as if it was being trailered. Not sure about your boat, but I would expect that the keel would crank all the way to flush with hull, or stub-keel, and maybe yours is binding somewhere. Good luck.
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You still haven't said what the bottom consists of at your marina or your slip. If the marina bottom is soft mud or sand, having the boat sit on the bottom really isn't that bad for it, provided there is no wave/tide action. The main thing you have to worry about on a lake is boat wakes.

The best solution would be to haul the boat...but you don't seem to even be considering that.
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Ok, folks, HE CAN'T HAUL THE BOAT!!! THE LAKE IS TO EFFIN' LOW!

The city and the corps will determine what the level will be, not a heck of a lot a couple of hundred boaters can do in relationship to a drinking water supply of a major city.

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the finger piers may not be strong enough at the aft to keep the boat "up". you may run into a situation where the ends of the fingers will "close" on the stern on your boat with the weight .

If the piers are "floaters" and the in-the-water-depth of them is enough, go for it if there are boats on both sides of your boat doing the same thing. Get some of those 4" nylon straps with the ratchet thingy to slip under the hull and try to raise it that way.
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"Ok, folks, HE CAN'T HAUL THE BOAT!!! THE LAKE IS TO EFFIN' LOW!"

Tch, tch, this is why America has become a third world country. Used to be, we'd say "he can't reach the ramp, but we can bring in a SkyCrane and hoist him out anyway."

Sikorsky SkyCrane, one of many ways to haul a boat when ramps aren't in reach. Not so bad when a couple dozen folks get together and split the day rate on renting one.

Of course, sometimes a fork lift is all you need. Once upon a time, the folks who owned the bathtub would have SAID SOMETHING before they pulled the plug, but so much for common courtesy. We lost that on the way to joining the Third World.
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actually, this is why we're becoming a 3rd world country... killing a knat with a machine gun.

I called my cousin, a lic. chopper pilot. He tells me a skycrane would be 15-20 THOUSAND dollars for the day, plus 2500 for the pilot, plus riggers @ approx 70.00 per hour EACH, plus fuel. All of those expenses start when he hits the light'em up switch.

As far as notice for pulling the plug, There has been drought conditions in the area for the past couple of years. Its a 2500 acre lake, with an avg depth of 30 ft. not Lake Michigan.

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A forklift could probably haul him out, or a small crane... a Skycrane isn't necessary. It would be an additional expense...but it is not an excluded option. He said that he can't get out via the ramp...that doesn't mean he can't get his boat hauled, if he is willing to spend the money to do so.

Yes, using a SkyCrane would be like using a nuke to swat a fly...but that isn't his only option.
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The boat club on the other side of the lake had a crane come out. It cost them $1000 for 4 hours, I think they got 18 boats out at that time. Unfortunately we are not quite that organized at the public slips.

Some asked about the bottom of the lake. It looks like mud, but I don't know how soft it is.
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$1000 for 18 boats...that's only $50 each including the tip. Damn reasonable for hauling boats!
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