Sheet Bend - SailNet Community
Seamanship & Navigation Forum devoted to seamanship and navigation topics, including paper and electronic charting tools.

 14Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 35 Old 2 Weeks Ago Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
davidpm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Madison
Posts: 4,514
Thanks: 367
Thanked 76 Times in 67 Posts
Rep Power: 10
 
Sheet Bend

We are still required to teach the sheet bend as part of one of our classes.

I've never used it in real life, however.

My thinking is that if you need the sheet bend you need a long line that you don't have. Right there I consider that some sort of failure or at least an issue is at play.

Either the boat was not provisioned properly with lines needed or I got myself into a situation I hadn't anticipated.

In either case, I wouldn't trust the sheet bend. It looks like it could shake loose too easily.

I know I could use a double sheet bend but what I usually do is use a bowline to bowline. Yes, they can shake out too but if I'm worried I can add a hitch to the tail.

One possible reasonable scenario is when docking or webbing your boat by tying it with long lines to the shore. Even then I 'm not sure I would trust it.

I would like to ask our experienced sailors. Do you ever routinely use the sheet bend? I would like to have an example to give the students where it would be an excellent choice.


As a side note, I never use a clove hitch to attach a boat to a piling. I had one come loose on me.

The lesson from the Icarus story is not about human failing.
It is a lesson about the limitations of wax as an adhesive.
If you have an engineering problem solve it.
davidpm is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 35 Old 2 Weeks Ago
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: TX/FL
Posts: 554
Thanks: 1
Thanked 23 Times in 22 Posts
Rep Power: 7
 
Re: Sheet Bend

Insulting a man's knot is bad manners.
Knots can be personal.
Some people name their knots.

Some knots like to be under tension, while others simply do not care.
Knots have their our special world, which we can visit..and play around a bit.
RichH and olson34 like this.
RegisteredUser is online now  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #3 of 35 Old 2 Weeks Ago
Senior Member
 
colemj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: On the boat cruising
Posts: 790
Thanks: 1
Thanked 38 Times in 36 Posts
Rep Power: 14
 
Re: Sheet Bend

I use sheet bends all the time to temporarily attach one rope to another. It is particularly useful when the ropes are of significantly different diameters. Don't know why you consider such usage a failure - why would one go and buy a long length of line just for a temporary use, or why would needing a temporary application be a sign of an unanticipated situation?

On the other hand, the clove hitch is one of my most used knots...

Mark
capta likes this.

Manta 40 Catamaran "Reach"

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
colemj is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
 
post #4 of 35 Old 2 Weeks Ago
Senior Member
 
overbored's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Dana Point, Ca
Posts: 1,950
Thanks: 1
Thanked 130 Times in 129 Posts
Rep Power: 7
 
Re: Sheet Bend

Got second place in a knot tying contest when I was a kid for tying a left hand sheet bend and an outside bowline. I was way faster but the judge was being picky. I have used the sheet bend to tie a heaving line to a hawser.
capta likes this.

"FULL TILT II" 2011 BENETEAU FIRST 30
"GOLD RUSH" PRINDLE 16
overbored is online now  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #5 of 35 Old 2 Weeks Ago
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: St Lawrence
Posts: 1,156
Thanks: 65
Thanked 55 Times in 52 Posts
Rep Power: 1
 
Re: Sheet Bend

Sheet bend/double sheet bend is one of my go to knots. I use it pretty well whenever I need to tie two lines together. Extra long mooring lines and long lashings are examples.

It's just so fast and easy to tie, especially if you are using one hand to hold onto a ladder or something.
MikeOReilly and capta like this.

Bay Hen 21, Prindle 16, Walker Bay 8
Arcb is online now  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #6 of 35 Old 2 Weeks Ago
Senior Member
 
BarryL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 2,032
Thanks: 4
Thanked 84 Times in 79 Posts
Rep Power: 14
 
Re: Sheet Bend

Hey,

I used a sheet bend last week. I bought a new mooring pick up stick stick and needed to tie it to my mooring. I am too cheap to buy a new line for that. I had some scrap line laying in a locker - right diameter, but too short. I used the sheet bend to e two pieces together and there you go.

This line should be part of my mooring setup all season. I'l let you know how it lasts.

Barry

Barry Lenoble
Deep Blue C, 2002 C&C 110
Mt. Sinai, NY

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
BarryL is online now  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
The Following User Says Thank You to BarryL For This Useful Post:
davidpm (1 Week Ago)
post #7 of 35 Old 2 Weeks Ago
Senior Member
 
MikeOReilly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Wherever I am
Posts: 2,433
Thanks: 205
Thanked 113 Times in 103 Posts
Rep Power: 8
 
Re: Sheet Bend

Oh man, I couldnít disagree with you more. Sheet/double bend is one of the standard knots I use on board. Probably only exceeded by bowline and rolling hitch. The sheet bend is very secure; the double is even better. I trust it when I go aloft (on my line climber), or to keep my mast up when I have to release the backstay (and extend the halyard).

Completely agree with Arcb; itís fast and easy to tie, very easy to lock in, and very secure. Iíve never had one shake out.
mstern likes this.

Why go fast, when you can go slow.
MikeOReilly is online now  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #8 of 35 Old 2 Weeks Ago
Rainwatcher
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Seattle
Posts: 221
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
Rep Power: 3
 
Re: Sheet Bend

I think if I needed a knot on my climber, that would be one of the places I'd be willing to buy a longer piece of line, regardless of how many CRB points I'd be giving up.

I use sheetbends all the time.

Black Lives Matter.

Proud to live in a Sanctuary City.
Jammer Six is online now  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #9 of 35 Old 1 Week Ago
Senior Member
 
Zanshin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Germany
Posts: 2,333
Thanks: 0
Thanked 32 Times in 30 Posts
Rep Power: 11
 
Re: Sheet Bend

I use the sheet bend all the time to put up my flags; flags typically have a loop on one side a length of line on the other. The loop gets attached to the halyard with a bowline while a sheet bend (I usually use a double sheet bend) does the job on the other end. Very secure if the knot is tensioned before going up the mast and I've never had one slip on me. I also use a sheet bend any time I have lines with different diameters that need to be attached to each other.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Zanshin is online now  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #10 of 35 Old 1 Week Ago
Senior Member
 
RichH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 4,468
Thanks: 42
Thanked 249 Times in 235 Posts
Rep Power: 18
   
Re: Sheet Bend

Here's my standard for joining lines:
Zeppelin Bend | How to tie the Zeppelin Bend | Climbing Knots

Faster, stronger, easily 'doubled', won't shake loose, an 'official' USNavy knot, etc.
This was one of my go-to's for 'rescue stuff'.
sailordave and JoCoSailor like this.
RichH is online now  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to RichH For This Useful Post:
davidpm (1 Week Ago), jwing (1 Week Ago)
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 2 (1 members and 1 guests)
rpludwig
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Appropriate mast bend? bshock Gear & Maintenance 7 05-06-2014 07:26 AM
Big Bend ijpratt Florida - Western 3 12-26-2013 11:14 PM
Mast bend? AirborneSF C & C 8 04-09-2013 02:32 PM
mast bend Piratesoul Irwin 0 07-20-2008 06:20 AM
Mast Bend offline2004 Gear & Maintenance 7 02-17-2006 10:50 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome