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I have that on a little placard right above the galley... it causes The Cuban to cuss just a bit every time she looks at it. LOLOLOL.. hey, every man has to have a dream
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What came as a bit of a surprise to me is that I had to be fingerprinted again although I assured the CG I had not changed my fingerprints since birth. The issuing USCG office in Toledo, Ohio suggested a closer site for the fingerprinting process of Milwaukee, this was welcome news as I wasn’t thrilled about a road trip to Toledo in the winter. The reason I was given as to why I needed to be fingerprinted again was that the prints were going to be taken electronically so that they could be shared with various law enforcement agencies if needed, apparently our government hasn't heard that the scanner was invented. Willingly I made an appointment with the USCG office in Milwaukee to be fingerprinted. Upon arrival I was asked to fill out the obligatory paperwork and provide two forms of photo identification, I was told that a passport and a drivers license would suffice. To my amazement I saw them pull an ink pad out of the desk drawer, when I asked about the “electronic” process, they looked at me and laughed “do you think they give us money for that type of equipment?”. Later that day at home I received a letter from Coast Guard Station Toledo informing me that I was to send a form of identification to them to complete my renewal application, a passport would do the trick I was told. I told them that the Coast Guard in Milwaukee took copies of the pertinent identification while I was there to be finger printed, I asked why this was necessary. They told me that CG station Milwaukee was not qualified to determine identification, you could have knocked me over with one of those missing WMDs that were supposed to be in Iraq! Reluctantly I sent my passport to GG Station Toledo (registered mail both ways costing me $30) so that they could determine my identification, how they did this without me appearing before them is a mystery. I go to bed each night hoping my passport will not be lost or end up in the wrong hands. As Pogo stated "we have seen the enemy as he is us"
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I just renewed my 50T Masters licence, what a MAJOR pain in the ass the coast guard is now that they are part of Homo Land Security, I now know why so many let thier licence expire! Would rather ask sailormitch to give me three root canals during a prostate exam while in ten foot seas in shark infested waters while sinking at the same time.....
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Thanks for dragging me into this, but I think I'll pass on your little scenario!!!! As you know, in my day job I deal with the Homo Land Security folks quite a bit, and your experience with the CG is about average for them. In my agency we have developed our own methods for handling the identity verification process that is simple, cheap and effective. Needless to say the other idiots in the gubmint security world keep telling us "You can't do that." Our response is, "Hey, dimwit, we just did!!!!"

As for the fingerprint thing, we have a $100 Epson scanner that scans the standard fingerprint card into the electronic format the FBI needs to run the prints. The electronic machines go for $6-20K or thereabouts, so obviously we are doing it wrong. You also should know that the FBI prefers the "rolled" fingerprints (the old ink type) compared to the electronically obtained ones (called "slaps") because the rolled prints have much more surface area to check and gives a better end result. The slaps only have 60 percent of the print compared to rolls. I have been in 3 hour meetings where people argued over slaps vs. rolls. Honest!

I won't even go into the idiocy with mailing the passport to them.

Here's a freebie -- The Postal Service has 800,000 employees. Care to guess how many of them have background checks?
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How about we pass on the prostate exam and root canal and go sailing together again this year?
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Well done! Yes, the hassle to renew it is a pain, but remember, it's only every 5 years, then you can relax for another 5.

They REALLY want you to renew by mail, not in person. Trying to call is an exercise in frustration. I've found it works okay by mail, if you allow enough time.
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We are fortunate that Boston, for some reason, is more mellow that most CG offices. If you have your paper straight, you show in person and are done in a few hours. They still do the ink fingerprinting, but it is worth the trip to Beantown to renew if you are close. Parking is the tough part. Show up early.
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