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I am from "tire Town". One of you retired tire engineers invent an inflatable injectable ribbed occulsive balloute device to seal the hole. Oh Yeah, for under a hundred bucks.
If you think about it, that's really a good idea. Some type of rubber device you can stuff into the hole and control the inflation with a CO2 cartridge.

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Get automatic floatation, which means you don't need a life-raft, and you can stay on your boat, and fix it right.
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I just want to reiterate an important point made by Mr. Cameraderie, because he was the only one to mention it and the significance may have been missed: STOP THE BOAT. Stoppping the boat will VASTLY reduce the amount of water flow through the hole.

Also, I believe the collision mat made from an old sail is called a "fothering sail."
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Plumbing supply shops already have something similar. They sell a heavy balloon that is designed to be stuffed in a larger pipe and inflated to seal off the water as a temporary plug. The rubber bladder is pretty heavy IIRC, and probably would work if you put a kevlar reinforced sleeve over it...so that it wouldn't be punctured.
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Plumbing supply shops already have something similar. They sell a heavy balloon that is designed to be stuffed in a larger pipe and inflated to seal off the water as a temporary plug. The rubber bladder is pretty heavy IIRC, and probably would work if you put a kevlar reinforced sleeve over it...so that it wouldn't be punctured.

Very cool, this was/is a great thread
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I have an 80 gal fresh water tank. If my drain for the sink was still above the water line i would run the sink until the tank was dry to allow for more boyancy, that would also get your hull higher out of the water
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Depending on how far from shore you were, that might be a really bad idea. You might be slowed by the repairs or the holing enough that you might need 80 gallons of fresh water to drink. It could be the difference between you surviving the holing and you dying of thirst... so dumping your fresh water when you get holed is probably a last resort type thing to do IMHO.

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Thinking about the problem is the first positive step. All boats are different, so the best plan for one type might not apply to another.

Take a look at your boat - how much of the inside of the hull can you see?

If you have to hack through an inner lining or built in furniture, do you have the tools quickly available to do it?

Consider fitting a divertor valve to the engine cooling water intake, and set up a pipe fitted with a strainer ready in the bilges

There used to be a device on the market called a subrella - like a 4 spoke umbrella. Push it through the hole, open it, and pull it back against the hull to seal the leak. Don't know if it is still available.

Don't jump to conclusions - people have destroyed their boats looking for the source of a leak only to find that a pipe from the water tank has failed, and their bilges are full of drinking water.

Know where all the seacocks are, and close them all until you know they are innocent.

If you are planning serious offshore sailing, consider making the forecabin bulkhead watertight. This may involve a lot of work depending on the original contruction.

My biggest worry is hitting a semi submerged shipping container. I have thought about fitting another depth sounder with an alarm, but pointed forward not down, which should then get an echo from the container - or rocks. Does anyone know if this would work? Would I get echoes from the water/air layer?
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