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Also, please remember that the first person in an anchorage has their pick, and if you arrive later, you have to accommodate the choices they made, since they were there first.
It is pretty difficult to know what rode someone has used unless you are in a position to ask them. I would assume 10-1, or at least allow for it. In NC waters it is shallow enough not to usually be an issue, but if you are in 30 feet of water it can be.
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Keep worrying about it, the nervousness is good for keeping you from sleeping too heavily. ;-) I like to wake up once or twice in the middle of the night and check on things when at anchor. At the very least pop my head out of the hatch and make sure the last visual marker I recall is still in roughly the same spot.
Every time I ask my wife if she wants to sleep on the hook, her immediate response is, "NO, you never sleep when we are anchored."

I have since found a small bay on our protected lake, about 8 - 10 feet of mud bottom. Now, when we anchor there, I sleep like a baby.
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It is pretty difficult to know what rode someone has used unless you are in a position to ask them. I would assume 10-1, or at least allow for it. In NC waters it is shallow enough not to usually be an issue, but if you are in 30 feet of water it can be.
Asking is generally a good idea, but you can't always do that. However, I wouldn't automatically assume a 10:1 scope, especially if they're anchored with an all-chain rode, which usually requires far less scope. If they're on a rope rode, then assuming 10:1 is probably wise, but from what I've seen, most people don't use that much scope under normal conditions.
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This is Giu's way of asking, "Pull my finger...".

He is in downstate Indiana, not much happening there.
A Portugese Sailor, land locked in Indiana, there has got to be a good oportunity for a photo shop there. Please someone with the skills of photo shop, do your thing.
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For us, the first question we have when we come to a new anchorage is whether others are hanging on one or two anchors. Here in St. Augustine with the current ripping through pretty fast, it is a good idea to have two set. One with the incoming and one with the outgoing tide. I personally like two. It is hard for me to ask an anchor to reset itself four times a day and rely on its ability to do so. We generally stick to 5:1 to 7:1. I also have the uncanny ability to wake up for each tide change. Not sure why or how this happens but I am very consistant. MISTRESS starts her swing and I wake up. I do the head run, check out the area to see how everyone is swinging, and then fall fast a sleep again.

If when we arrive most are on one hook and we wish to set two, we will anchor away from everyone else because we will obviously not swing the same way.

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It wouldn't be fair not to warn you... the results aren't pretty... Giu is a twisted individual. Much worse on-line than in-person for some reason.
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Just remember folks. That before you anchor; Be sure that the other end of the anchor rode, be it chain or line, is well secured to your vessel.
Or you will going back to port to acquire another anchor & rode. LOL
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15' of chain ? No wonder you need to use 10:1 scope. For normal coastal , harbour stuff we use 35 metres of chain. While I'm prepared to let it all out plus the line if necessary we sit more than happily to 3:1 . That's in conditions from 'mill pond' up to 'who was the idiot who chose this anchorage'. Beyond that we have needed 5:1 on a couple of occasions.

Previous boat had less chain and more line and we did drag on a few occasions. With Raven we have never dragged, even in conditions when others were being dragged all over the shop.

(PB set a Danforth. ptooey. Now CQR and more than happy.)

Unless it's to reduce weight I cannot understand why you would use only 15' of chain when it's the chain that does most of the work.
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