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That chain should be at least the lenght of your boat.
What!! you don't want to scratch your fiberglass deck??
Then put down a chaffing plate to drag the chain across.
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I've got 30' of chain on my primary anchor, but only 6' on the kedge. However, not all anchors work well with a lot of chain.
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I've got 30' of chain on my primary anchor, but only 6' on the kedge. However, not all anchors work well with a lot of chain.

Hey SD, Which ones don't ?
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IIRC, the Fortress and Danforths don't necessarily work well with all-chain or a lot of chain, especially in a soft bottom. IIRC, Fortress recommends a rode with 6-10' of chain, rather than all chain. From the Fortress website:

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Use three-strand nylon rope, 6-12 ft (2-4 m) of chain and a minimum of 5:1 scope. Also, a minimum of 6 ft (2 m) of chain should be used for every 25 ft (8 m) of water depth. For storm conditions use an anchor one or two sizes larger.


Not many people I know anchor in water much deeper than 25'... IIRC, the anchor will have trouble setting properly with too much chain.
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IIRC, the Fortress and Danforths don't necessarily work well with all-chain or a lot of chain, especially in a soft bottom. IIRC, Fortress recommends a rode with 6-10' of chain, rather than all chain. From the Fortress website:



Not many people I know anchor in water much deeper than 25'... IIRC, the anchor will have trouble setting properly with too much chain.
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Hmmmm...on the PB when I only had about 10-20' feet of chain the thing dragged all over the place but after I increased this to oh around 50' things improved enormously.
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What kind of anchor did you have on the PB???
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What kind of anchor did you have on the PB???
Danforth, but I can't remember the size. It was appropriate for the boat however. It gave me an abiding dislike for Danforths and their ilk. It will take a lot of convincing for me to abandon our CQR and chain. Mind you the day we anchored in 20 metres and our anchor windlass died was not one of my best.

I sleep like a log on the boat, even the old one but I'm wide awake the instant something changes. Don't mind at all getting up and checking out the lay of the land in the middle of the night however. Some of my favourite times onboard have been sitting on deck at two in the morning , dead calm and an otherwise empty anchorage. Not a unique experience I know but nonetheless looverly.
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Danforth, but I can't remember the size. It was appropriate for the boat however. It gave me an abiding dislike for Danforths and their ilk. It will take a lot of convincing for me to abandon our CQR and chain. Mind you the day we anchored in 20 metres and our anchor windlass died was not one of my best.
What, you don't like the new yatching exercise plan??

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I sleep like a log on the boat, even the old one but I'm wide awake the instant something changes. Don't mind at all getting up and checking out the lay of the land in the middle of the night however. Some of my favourite times onboard have been sitting on deck at two in the morning , dead calm and an otherwise empty anchorage. Not a unique experience I know but nonetheless looverly.
I love all the stars you can see from the deck of a boat at night, which are normally obscured by the light pollution of cities and such.
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What, you don't like the new yatching exercise plan??
Do be honest, no !!! When I got the damn anchor nearly on board I slipped and had to redo the last 20'. Oh my that was painful.



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That's why you're supposed to have a chain pawl on the foredeck... so that if the windlass dies, you can have some help hauling the damn anchor back aboard.
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