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Cruisingdad my experience on the ocean is about zero. I sail only on the Great Lakes and while they are big, nothing like the ocean. How big are your waves typically ? On Lake Huron when we get a squall, actually a thunder storm, the waves never get time to build.

Only when we have sustained system winds do we get anything substantial. When a low is moving through the area we will get SW winds that slowly build over about 2 days. Depending on the strength of the low they might get as strong as 35 knots. then as the low travels through the wind backs around all the way to the NW and fills in at least as strong as the SW wind was. This wind slowly diminishes over 2-3 days.

Since lake Huron runs north and south, when the SW winds blows for a couple of days we will get waves up to about 14 feet trough to crest in the northern part of the lake.
They tend to be pretty organized long rollers that do crest and break. Really fun to surf on with a kite up. With a North wind same thing but in the southern end.

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Gary,

That sea was 15ish breakers. 15 is fine. Breakers become a problem. A northern built ove rthe gulf from Texas and pushed through and caught us offshore. 27 hours of that stuff.

THis was the pic my wonderful wife shot of me afterwards (next morning). She thought is was very funny. You will notice there are NO pics of her...

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If, for some reason, you have to turn the boat, do it on the TOP of a wave - not in the trough. It is not hard for a combination of high winds and breaking waves and a beam-to position to turn into a broach and knock down.
This is what we were taught in Nav Class while out in the Atlantic. The waves were only 8 feet... but they were breaking. So our Captain explained how to tack in high wind/wave situations. Come about just as you are reaching the crest. Also approach large waves at a slight angle rather than straight on... Safer and less stress on the boat too.
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THis was the pic my wonderful wife shot of me afterwards (next morning). She thought is was very funny.

After 27 hours of that and you still have a grin on your face! Nice.
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Chubuscos and Santanas, out here, bring out the staysail, roll up the jib, drop the main, reef the mizzen, turn on the motor for safety, harness and tether, then break out the soap for a good fresh water shower in the cockpit.
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I had been very, very green. All I will say is that EVERYONE get's seasick... we all just have different thresholds!!

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Somebody posted before that they were "not a fan of sea anchors." If there is searoom enough, is there any reason not to employ a sea anchor? That always seemed to me to be a good solution to dealing with a sudden squall that one knows will not last long. Are there problems with it that of which I am unaware?

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SailingDog is apparently confusing the discussion at hand with heaving-to in heavy weather. We were discussing thunderstorms and squalls, where high winds, breaking seas, but not swells, are the norm. And it's all of relatively short duration.

Bare poles and 50hp ready to hand are nothing to sniff at. And a relatively underpowered sailboat, with a sea anchor deployed, will find it easier to orient her bow to oncoming breaking seas. Manoeuvering as CD describes will be made easier. Ian describes the possibly optimal course of action, assuming an ample supply of Lifeboy bar soap. A good time to break out the old soap on a rope!
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