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Unfortunately, the first to scream about their rights are usually the ones causing the problems in the first place.

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Something similar happened to me the other day. I was power sailing out of Huntington bay when I saw a 35 foot personal fishing power boat on autopilot with the captain paying attention to his fishing gear and not where he was going. I was on a starboard tack and he was off my port bow on a collision course. Since he didn't see me, and since a sailboat can only go a certain speed I couldn't go faster in front of him so I decided to fall off and let him pass in front of me. So I do this and leave plenty of room for him to pass thinking I am being the nice one for moving. As soon as he sees my boat passing behind him he starts screaming at me about how I am now going to mess up his fishing line he is trowling off his stern and calling me an idiot. Oh boy was I mad and I let him know it. It just pisses me off that you have these a**holes out there who have no clue what they are doing and they don't pay attention and then they get mad at you because they think you are the wrong one. I wish I had a flaregun to shoot a hole in the morons hull. What did he want me to do...stay on my course so his boat on autopilot could ram my boat and sink both of us since he wasn't paying any attention and was in the middle of a crowded bay.
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Something similar happened to me the other day. I was power sailing out of Huntington bay when I saw a 35 foot personal fishing power boat on autopilot with the captain paying attention to his fishing gear and not where he was going. I was on a starboard tack and he was off my port bow on a collision course. Since he didn't see me, and since a sailboat can only go a certain speed I couldn't go faster in front of him so I decided to fall off and let him pass in front of me. So I do this and leave plenty of room for him to pass thinking I am being the nice one for moving. As soon as he sees my boat passing behind him he starts screaming at me about how I am now going to mess up his fishing line he is trowling off his stern and calling me an idiot. Oh boy was I mad and I let him know it. It just pisses me off that you have these a**holes out there who have no clue what they are doing and they don't pay attention and then they get mad at you because they think you are the wrong one. I wish I had a flaregun to shoot a hole in the morons hull. What did he want me to do...stay on my course so his boat on autopilot could ram my boat and sink both of us since he wasn't paying any attention and was in the middle of a crowded bay.
Do I suppose he's considered trawling and under the colreg you've to give him water ?
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Something similar happened to me the other day. I was power sailing out of Huntington bay when I saw a 35 foot personal fishing power boat on autopilot with the captain paying attention to his fishing gear and not where he was going. I was on a starboard tack and he was off my port bow on a collision course. Since he didn't see me, and since a sailboat can only go a certain speed I couldn't go faster in front of him so I decided to fall off and let him pass in front of me. So I do this and leave plenty of room for him to pass thinking I am being the nice one for moving. As soon as he sees my boat passing behind him he starts screaming at me about how I am now going to mess up his fishing line he is trowling off his stern and calling me an idiot. Oh boy was I mad and I let him know it.
I had the same thing happen this past Wednesday - though it was a moron trolling for salmon... As he stood there yelling and screaming with his beer in his hand, I calmly headed back into the wind once past him, dropped the anchor over the side with 40' of rode hanging down (we were in 60' of water)...smiled, waved, and did a little trolling of my own.

And here all this time I thought I was a better person than that.
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If he isn't flying the dayshape (a basket IIRC) then he isn't fishing under the COLREGS... Besides the COLREGS specifically exclude trolling and small sport fishing boats from the fishing exclusion as their gear does not interfere with their ability to manuever
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The basket is passé, Or no longer used. If a fishing vessel they have two cones with apex together, looking like an hour glass.
A vessel can claim to be a fishing vessel if their gear restricts their ability to maneuver.
A vessel "Trolling" is considered to be a power driven vessel under the rules. Not a fishing vessel.
Rule 5: Inland & International; Requires that a proper lookout shall be maintained at all times.
So having your vessel on Auto-Pilot and going below to take a dump and grab a cup of coffee, without anyone on the helm puts you in the wrong every time. Something like Homer Simpson putting the RV on cruise control and going back to make himself a pot of coffee. "Duh!"
Wait! that does put you in the same class as Homer Simpson.

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There are oodles of guys fishing in our home waters around Gardiner's Bay to Newport. They drift about and often position themselves around buoys or what appears to be transit routes.. like Plum Gut with hardly a care for those who are underway and navigating. Some do move, but many do not. I just move away from them as there is nothing one can do except shout some expletive.

I suppose there is no "law" to enforce concerning these fisherman. Along with cigarette boats and huge wakes in restricted waters it's hard to find something to like about the power crowd.

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I had the same thing happen this past Wednesday - though it was a moron trolling for salmon... As he stood there yelling and screaming with his beer in his hand, I calmly headed back into the wind once past him, dropped the anchor over the side with 40' of rode hanging down (we were in 60' of water)...smiled, waved, and did a little trolling of my own.

And here all this time I thought I was a better person than that.
Wrong again...
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