river sailing ... Pointing - SailNet Community
Seamanship & Navigation Forum devoted to seamanship and navigation topics, including paper and electronic charting tools.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 11 Old 09-18-2007 Thread Starter
me at 67!
 
deniseO30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bristol pa
Posts: 6,969
Thanks: 55
Thanked 126 Times in 115 Posts
Rep Power: 10
   
river sailing ... Pointing

I don't like to go a sailing on days when the wind is running straight down the river here in SE PA on the tidal delaware. But! that elimiates most every day! Today I ran wing and wing going south on the river while using my Autohelm. (ran about 3 - 5 miles I guess) That was fun!

Coming back north of course is the pain in the.. A---! tacking every 3 to five mins. 10, if one is really lucky. Motoring is most often the best way back up river. the river is prettly big here but not that big when tacking!

Anyway. In really light air like under 7 knots. My boat points pretty good. It has a 153 radial cut light air genny, roller furling, companion way traveler (garhaurer), boom vang, The main is the orginal config for the Oday 30. out haul works too. Today the wind was about 10 knots, it was fun beating back up river for awhile but I got tired of it after about a 1/2 hr. The wind was dead straight down the river all the way back of course! I tried to about 7 degrees but the genny kept luffing. 25 or 30 degrees works good but that is what causes short tacks even though its fun. If I could get closer to 10 or 15 degrees off the wind I'd be a happy camper! err.. sailor! sailorette?

I'ver heard that a reefed main will help one point better. I've not tried that yet. I'm about to change the 153 back to the working jib since light air season is about over. Of course with crew that loves to do all the work it's fun to tack back and forth and beat into the wind even if it doesn't cover much distance. But when solo and listening to music and relaxing in the cool air it's no fun, and the engine spoils the music

all input is apreciated!

lets not get too scientific!

Denise, Bristol PA, Oday 30. On Tidal Delaware River, Anchor Yacht Club.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

My last project!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


My boat is sold!
deniseO30 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 11 Old 09-18-2007
.
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,851
Thanks: 0
Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 13
         
Get a smaller genoa, can you? If you reef, up to some point it will work, but its still a poor situation, not as good as a smaller genoa, say a 125% or even 120%. This sail can be run inside the shrouds for closer gap between the main.

Also if you sail as close to shore as possible profit the eddy currents.

Last edited by Giulietta; 09-18-2007 at 07:40 PM.
Giulietta is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #3 of 11 Old 09-18-2007
Bristol 45.5 - AiniA
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 3,929
Thanks: 5
Thanked 99 Times in 87 Posts
Rep Power: 10
 
Nonsuch?

Have a considered a Nonsuch or at least a boat with a self-tacking jib? I used to beat into my channel and have to tack about every 45 sec - just turn the wheel
killarney_sailor is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #4 of 11 Old 09-18-2007 Thread Starter
me at 67!
 
deniseO30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bristol pa
Posts: 6,969
Thanks: 55
Thanked 126 Times in 115 Posts
Rep Power: 10
   
not

going to get anoter boat! only have this one a year! I love it too!

self tending jib wouldn't work in my boat it's only about 12 ft from the headstay to mast.. but you have me thinking!

Denise, Bristol PA, Oday 30. On Tidal Delaware River, Anchor Yacht Club.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

My last project!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


My boat is sold!
deniseO30 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #5 of 11 Old 09-19-2007
Senior Member
 
teshannon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 2,713
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 12
     
Denise,
Have you thought about moving off the river. I know the area you are in and as you're finding out you are kind of limited in what you can do.
teshannon is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #6 of 11 Old 09-19-2007 Thread Starter
me at 67!
 
deniseO30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bristol pa
Posts: 6,969
Thanks: 55
Thanked 126 Times in 115 Posts
Rep Power: 10
   
I was on the sassafras last yr about this time for 3 months, then brought her home to my YC in Bristol. It's limited here yes but it's cheap! My membership and boat storage is less then $600 a yr someday I'd like to move her down to oxford or fairlee creek. River sailing, they say round here is: "if you can sail here you can sail anywhere!"

I was in a race on a friends boat Saturday that was sponserd by winters sailing center. we came in 2nd. 25 mph winds. (oday 322) Lots of people were having one knock down after another. I was on the mainsheet.. my arms (using the winch too) were sore for 3 days! Toe rail was buried!

That said.. sailing on the bay won't help me learn to point the boat better I don't think.. so close quarters sailing it is for now. I do hope to head to the bay sometime in Oct. which is coming up soon!

Denise, Bristol PA, Oday 30. On Tidal Delaware River, Anchor Yacht Club.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

My last project!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


My boat is sold!
deniseO30 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #7 of 11 Old 09-19-2007
Senior Member
 
teshannon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 2,713
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 12
     
Denise,
Wow is that cheap! I wasn't thinking so much of the bay (and definitely not thinking of the Sassafras) but mote the NJ coast. I'm heading to the coast next year and I'll miss the anchorages but look forward to the seabreeze. Of course it'll cost me a lot more than $600.
teshannon is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #8 of 11 Old 09-19-2007
.
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,851
Thanks: 0
Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 13
         
Denise, why don't you install a self tacking genoa??

Its pretty easy to do, and in a few hours you can do it, once you get the right material.
Giulietta is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #9 of 11 Old 09-20-2007 Thread Starter
me at 67!
 
deniseO30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bristol pa
Posts: 6,969
Thanks: 55
Thanked 126 Times in 115 Posts
Rep Power: 10
   
Giu I was looking at the harkern self tending gear actually.. I'd need a jib with a foot only about 12 from the headstay. it's only 13.5 to the mast LOL. Maybe someday. thanks

Denise, Bristol PA, Oday 30. On Tidal Delaware River, Anchor Yacht Club.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

My last project!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


My boat is sold!
deniseO30 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #10 of 11 Old 09-20-2007
.
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,851
Thanks: 0
Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 13
         
Denise, don't get "ready to wear" stuff.

Its easier than you think. All you need is a track on a bridge, a track car, a couple blocks, and a block up in the mast..

If you want I can draw it for you.
Giulietta is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Learning to Share PracticalSailor Practical Sailor 21 03-31-2015 01:55 PM
Off-Season Sailing Seminars Dobbs Davis Learning to Sail Articles 0 12-05-2001 07:00 PM
Sailing the Potomac River Artwenk General Discussion (sailing related) 1 09-07-2001 11:40 AM
Great Books for Beginners Mark Matthews Gear and Maintenance Articles 0 01-27-2000 07:00 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome