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Good story, Gary.. I'm amazed that they took you up on that offer too. Just the other day we saw a similar scenario (OK, pick any day I suppose) where a 50-something footer doing 16-18 knots passed a sailboat only meters away, when a small course alteration a half mile back would have put them a comfortable distance off.

Other than the real A-holes who do look back and watch us rock and roll as we do the "Bayliner Be-bop", I do believe that many of these characters never look back and are, as mentioned above, pretty much clueless.

It's not just close passes, either. On numerous occasions I've seen damage done to boats moored or rafted at docks as these guys plow by without regard to their wake and wash.

A recent phenom, though, thanks to fuel prices, is seeing a number of these 20+knot capable boats puttering along at a sedate 8 knots.... good for all of us.
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The only time I ever liked big wakes was when I was a kid and we used to jump our inflatable with them. I duplicated this once in the Coast Guard a little on the bigger scale. I jumped our 21ft utility boat at 45mhp off of a ferry wake in Elliott Bay in Seattle. The ferry captain called our base commander and then we got a call to RTB. I got a stern a$$ chewin and was told not to do it again.
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Also, many don't realize that coming down off of plane right near an anchorage is about the worst thing they can do.
Absolutely! You see this all the time on the bay.

You'll laugh, but I cant tell you how many times I have almost fell overboard in the marina due to a PWC passing by the marina creating a decent sized wake, but still doing less than the post 6 knot limit
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Also, many don't realize that coming down off of plane right near an anchorage is about the worst thing they can do. When a boat drops off of plane, the wake it creates until it slows to a reasonable speed is enormous.
If the boat is truly on plane and properly trimmed, often the optimum thing to do is just keep going if it is safe to do so, but I am not sure how well that would be recievied by other boaters. The ignorance works both ways. I have seen people shake their fists at boats that went skittering by at high speed throwing almost no wake that would have launched a little tsunami by throttling down. On inland lakes around here, a bass boat doing 5-15 is a much bigger nuisance than one doing 30-50.

One that did annoy me not long ago was getting outside the no wake zone just a head of a big power boat and having him gun it as he went in semi-circle around me; talk about some wild waves to deal with.
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I know the exact spot you're talking about. Breeze sat on a private slip directly across from the City Marina for a couple of years. Lotsa idiots in this neck of the woods. Of course, if you have to drive around Jacksonville at lot, like me, you find out that it's no wonder the boat drivers are idiots. They're just bringing their (lack of) driving skills straight out of their cars into their boats.
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The whole deal where they are responsible for the damage they cause is nice when you print it down and read it.

Now, how to you make it happen? To whom do I send the bill - "Busted Betty" with a home point of SmallTown, MD" ???? Or "Fishing Tower Boat" -

Anyone got any ideas?
Calling the Coast Guard and complaining on 16 regarding my spilled Rum and Coke doesn't get a response, I'd bet bruised shin won't either - and I'm not going to fake a "man overboard caused by wake from Stupid PB hailing from Annapolis" just to make it happen.
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I hate this behavior, rocking in big wakes is maddening.

But what really sets me off are the operators of the cigarette-style boats who will pass close by at 50+ knots. Their wakes don't tend to ne so deep or nasty, the issue is that their behavior has no margin for error. if the operator gets distracted, makes a little mistake, then you and your crew could all be dead... they put me over the line.

I can't understand why they operate in this manner when most of the boats have paint schemes that make them easily identifiable, even at 50 plus knots. There is a 40' in our area who insisted on blasting out the channel full throttle, passing close alongside whomever was powering out to deep water, then returning ten minutes later the other way, again at full speed. One day he went by us four times before we raised sail.

He came to his slip one day and found the night before someone had tossed a balloon filled with red paint on his foredeck. Quite a mess.
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The whole deal where they are responsible for the damage they cause is nice when you print it down and read it.

Now, how to you make it happen?

Anyone got any ideas?
I'm all ears.
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