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Notatom has the gist of it totally. Rule 19 in fog. And all sections of it and rule 5 apply.

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How much would a 25' aluminum mast stand out on radar?
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Basically, an aluminum mast has almost no radar profile. Radar needs flat surfaces, corners and edges to reflect off of, and most masts have little in the way of large flat surfaces, hard corners or edges.

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While both share some portion of the blame, I believe the catamaran has the legal duty to avoid a vessel actively fishing.
Gee, CAM, you can't find a way to blame the Democrats for this one?? you're slipping!!!!

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If the mast has no reflection then where is his reflector, or reflectors? I will occassionally call a freighter to see if I am clear on his screen. The thunderstorms that roll through southern Florida can be as bad as fog.
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Who died maintaining the right of way.
He was right, dead right, as he sailed along,
But he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong.

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Unfortunately, the Big Boat rule applies more often than not.

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The following is an extract from the Colregs

Part B - Steering and Sailing Rules
Section 1 - Conduct of vessels in any condition of visibility
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Rule 5 Look out.
Every vessel shall at all times maintain a proper look-out by sight and hearing as well as by all available means appropriate in the prevailing circumstances and conditions so as to make a full appraisal of the situation and of the risk of collision.
This rule has as consequence that all solo sailing for long trips is against the COLREGS as there is no look-out when the skipper is sleeping. Apparently the risk is tolerated, but it remains that most authorities insist on a proper look-out, and check it was effectively carried out after an incident. In spite of this the look-out duties are more and more neglected on many ships.
So who was not keeping lookout is on the wrong end
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Motoring under autopilot in the fog with the bridge left unattended is a bigger problem than not just keeping a good lookout imho.
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Part B - Steering and Sailing Rules
Section 1 - Conduct of vessels in any condition of visibility
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Rule 5 Look out.
Every vessel shall at all times maintain a proper look-out by sight and hearing as well as by all available means appropriate in the prevailing circumstances and conditions so as to make a full appraisal of the situation and of the risk of collision.
This rule has as consequence that all solo sailing for long trips is against the COLREGS as there is no look-out when the skipper is sleeping. Apparently the risk is tolerated, but it remains that most authorities insist on a proper look-out, and check it was effectively carried out after an incident. In spite of this the look-out duties are more and more neglected on many ships.
So who was not keeping lookout is on the wrong end

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all 8 on the catamaran were put into the water.
all 8 on the cat have fallen overboard??!! it must had been an open cat, a small recreational cat, with no fence around the deck but its true that in fog everyone on board is on high alert and standing

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