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To the OP:

Hide your Cuban Cigars underneath the bags of cocaine; I guarantee they will not notice the cigars......
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Boarding a plane in Salt Lake Utah. The TSA ID checker did not know what a Mariner's Document (issued by the USCG) looked like...? Then showed him my Military Retired ID card and he was still confused. Finally showed him my Louisiana driver's license and was let on the plane.

Now I have to get a TWIC ID card to go with my USCG License & Mariner's document and I bet he (if we ever meet again) will not know what it is also.
An example of your Government at work protecting us from what??? Hey I won't claim them!!
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unfortunately, the TSA is peopled with a lot of clueless and/or incompetent people. In the last Red Team penetration testing, 95% of the fake bombs, weapons and guns made it past security.
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Boarding a plane in Salt Lake Utah. The TSA ID checker did not know what a Mariner's Document (issued by the USCG) looked like...? Then showed him my Military Retired ID card and he was still confused. Finally showed him my Louisiana driver's license and was let on the plane.

Now I have to get a TWIC ID card to go with my USCG License & Mariner's document and I bet he (if we ever meet again) will not know what it is also.
An example of your Government at work protecting us from what??? Hey I won't claim them!!
Boats,

I have the same credentials, but the one that gets me through is the La. driver's license, unless I actually encounter some TSA person who's a veteran.

This has been a funny thread, though. Generally, if you are cruising from state to state in the US on a recreational boat, no one cares and no one looks. Though maybe in California, an avocado will get you in more trouble than an M-16 ;-)
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If you want to see trouble... Try bringing Apples into Washington state...
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Well,
Financial losses will be much bigger from the meat from, say, England, than from AK 74 from Russia. After all, how many people you could shoot? 10 -20- 30 top...
Now compare that to the announcement about mad cow, foot and mouth and anything else we do not know about yet.... - Nobody buyng beef, big agricultural businesses losing profits, all that ranchers moving to the cities and ending up voting democratic next time...

And, Alex, you should know that, the ridiculous rules invented to protect EU agriculture are in existence for a long time?!!!

Political sentiments aside, I would rather see absolute legalization of the cocaine and stronger enforcement of the meat/plant etc.

Remember, couple of years ago pictures of devastated british farmers? How about US forests eaten buy chinese beetles? Or Colorado beetle multiplying on the potato fields in Poland...
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Dec.24th,2007
Our stick is boarding Huston to Atlanta....Then on to IRAQ.

We only need a drivers licence for this hop.Guy in front of me hands TSA official his licence.Tsa official proceeds to drop it in a crack in the desk and can not get it out.So we wait for a maintnence guy to show up and inform us the desk desk belongs to such and such company and he can not take 5 screws out to retrive said licence...Will have to wait untill dayshift comes on and the guy that the companys desk belongs to gets in.

Now granted we did stop and have a few before this.But none of the 10 were drunk.

Guy politly asks the TSA man for a recept for his licence as he has a plane to catch with connections to IRAQ.And his company is going to be very upset if he misses it.Tells TSA man he can mail it back to his house when they get a person there that is qualified to SCREW A DESK.

At this poing 4 TSA GOONS draq him off.He finally caught up with us a week later.Spent the night in jail for using profanity directed at a TSA official.And being drunk in public.He had one whisky sour.

This is where we the people are.No one at the airport qualified to screw a desk but very qualified to SCREW YOU.

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Re: TSA

Mark, Thank you from the bottom of my heart for your service to our country. My son is in Iraq and I fear for his safety every day. I would not begrudge anyone a drink that was headed to that god awful place.

The problem with TSA is that they are low-paid and therefore likely to be in that job because they can't get a better one. Couple that with the real power they are authorized to wield and you have a formula for conflict.

Challenging them or being rude to them is a surefire way to irritate them. And they reacted with a vengeance. They were wrong, of course, but they had the power and decided to abuse it. What can be done about it? Not much in this climate of fear where we the people have been led like sheep to give up our rights in the name of security.

I recall a quote (I think by Ben Franklin) "Those who would give up a little liberty for security will soon have neither." Unfortunately, I think we are a long way down that road.
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As a Mariner I will need to get a TWIC card. The thing is the bloops at the air port didn't know what my Mariner's document was, and the USCG issued it to me and they are a part of Homeland Security also... but that indiot just stood there looking at it for a full two minutes. I think he had fried a few brain cells while they were training that idiot.
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Probably worth writing that incident up and reporting it to your local Congressman, and having them do something about it. There's no need for the TSA goons to be rude and hostile as well as stupid. That's an abuse of their authority, and if you let them get away with it...it'll just get worse. I've gotten at least two TSA goons canned for less egregious behavior.

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Our stick is boarding Huston to Atlanta....Then on to IRAQ.

We only need a drivers licence for this hop.Guy in front of me hands TSA official his licence.Tsa official proceeds to drop it in a crack in the desk and can not get it out.So we wait for a maintnence guy to show up and inform us the desk desk belongs to such and such company and he can not take 5 screws out to retrive said licence...Will have to wait untill dayshift comes on and the guy that the companys desk belongs to gets in.

Now granted we did stop and have a few before this.But none of the 10 were drunk.

Guy politly asks the TSA man for a recept for his licence as he has a plane to catch with connections to IRAQ.And his company is going to be very upset if he misses it.Tells TSA man he can mail it back to his house when they get a person there that is qualified to SCREW A DESK.

At this poing 4 TSA GOONS draq him off.He finally caught up with us a week later.Spent the night in jail for using profanity directed at a TSA official.And being drunk in public.He had one whisky sour.

This is where we the people are.No one at the airport qualified to screw a desk but very qualified to SCREW YOU.

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