Navigators: The Sextant you own and have a License? - SailNet Community
Seamanship & Navigation Forum devoted to seamanship and navigation topics, including paper and electronic charting tools.

 1Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 44 Old 01-10-2009 Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Boasun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: New Orleans, LA
Posts: 3,070
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 10
   
Navigators: The Sextant you own and have a License?

Hey people. Am Curious as to how many Navigators we have here? Their Sextants and if they have a License?

I have a C Plath sextant, bought it 2nd hand but from a reliable dealer.
The License is: 1600 ton Master / 2nd Mate Unlimited Tonnage.
along with ARPA, GMDSS, STCW and Able Seaman.


That is a start on this thread. NOW How about you?

1600 Ton Master, 2nd Mate Unlimited Tonnage

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Maritime Instructor
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

S/V Rapture
Boasun is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 44 Old 01-10-2009
ancient mariner
 
captbillc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: duluth ,minnesota
Posts: 439
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 8
 
sextant is a Heath navigation , london, uk i let my license expire in october. with the transportation workers ID card, drug test $50 ( i never used drugs ) physical , etc i figured it would cost close to $500 so i let it expire . my license was 100Ton near costal for auxiliary sailing vessels

Liberals are people who care about others. Freethinkers are not constrained by the myths of religion.
captbillc is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #3 of 44 Old 01-10-2009
the pointy end is the bow
 
erps's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: La Conner, Washington
Posts: 6,260
Thanks: 2
Thanked 27 Times in 26 Posts
Rep Power: 11
   
One of those $80-100 Davis Plastic sextants used for CN practice and occasional fixes with a three armed protractor. No licenses but part of the job is running boats in local coastal waters and a major nearby river and I'm often out when the weather is nasty, dark, or foggy. Fog gives me a neck ache almost every time.

Ray
S.V. Nikko
1983 Fraser 41
La Conner, WA


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Boating for over 25 years, some of them successfully.
erps is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #4 of 44 Old 01-10-2009
Senior Member
 
Valiente's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Toronto
Posts: 5,491
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 11
   
No licence, but I have the Canadian PCOC since '99 (when it came out), the Toronto Harbour Licence (involves essentially maneuvering a small outboard skiff around a marina and identifying some basic COLREGS stuff), and have passed the following courses: the 12-class "Boating" course from CPS, the 4 week "Coastal Pilotage" course from CPS, and a six-class Celestial Navigation course offered by a former CPS instructor at the club.

I also have an Astra IIIB sextant, a Freiberger Yacht sextant and a Davis 25 for the kid. I carry a hand-held compass and an old optical rangefinder, as well as a Trimble GPS, two Magellan handhelds and a Raymarine late '90s chartplotter. I have a Ritchie Globemaster with compensators at the helm and a KVH gyro compass. I also carry all local charts, although I tend to rely on Notice to Mariners over the radio as Lake Ontario doesn't have a lot of news in this regard.

Lastly, my watch has a recording barometer and a compass, but I have to get it five and a half feet off the steel deck before it will read properly! So that's a load of info and backup.

I would like to take the RYA Yachtmaster and then the Oceanmaster courses in Britain (I hold dual citizenship and thus it would be a matter of getting there and affording the time and cost of a few weeks in a B&B) because they seem to be the most respected qualifications around the world short of the actual "tickets" professional mariners or naval personnel can acquire.

The "six-pack" offered by the U.S. Coast Guard is considered pretty basic and Caribbean-oriented by non-U.S. sailors, as it is no more difficult than the basic licensing you need in most countries to sail at all. Alex is pretty up on this sort of thing. Of course, the vast majority of Canadian and U.S. sailors have little or no formal training at all, as the PCOC in Canada is a bit of a joke, but fractionally better than nothing, I suppose.

One point: The USCG will only certify U.S. citizens, which is fine, I suppose, but I would take the six-pack if I could, just to have SOMETHING. Canadian Power Squadron courses are quite similar, but they are NOT "official qualifications". I would have to go to "Canadian Sailor School" for that, and I'm a bit old to consider a career on lake freighters....
Valiente is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #5 of 44 Old 01-10-2009
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 5,829
Thanks: 0
Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts
Rep Power: 15
     
Davis mark 15
!00 ton Masters, sail and tow endorsements.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Never Forgotten

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
bubb2 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #6 of 44 Old 01-10-2009
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 5,829
Thanks: 0
Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts
Rep Power: 15
     
Quote:
Originally Posted by Valiente View Post

The "six-pack" offered by the U.S. Coast Guard is considered pretty basic and Caribbean-oriented by non-U.S. sailors, as it is no more difficult than the basic licensing you need in most countries to sail at all.

One point: The USCG will only certify U.S. citizens, which is fine, I suppose, but I would take the six-pack if I could, just to have SOMETHING.

The 6 pack can be held by a non-citizen. It is the masters that you have to be a citizen to hold.

Please, sit for the 6-pack test, I think you find it more then "pretty basic."


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Never Forgotten

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
bubb2 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #7 of 44 Old 01-10-2009
moderate?
 
camaraderie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: East Coast
Posts: 13,877
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 16
     
I've got the newest model. No license necessary!

Navigators: The Sextant you own and have a License?-gpsextant.jpg
harmonic likes this.

No longer posting. Reach me by PM!
camaraderie is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #8 of 44 Old 01-11-2009
Senior Member
 
Valiente's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Toronto
Posts: 5,491
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 11
   
Quote:
Originally Posted by bubb2 View Post
The 6 pack can be held by a non-citizen. It is the masters that you have to be a citizen to hold.

Please, sit for the 6-pack test, I think you find it more then "pretty basic."
I'll check that out, but it looked less daunting than the RYA courses. Thanks for the info.

EDIT: Bubb, this site states explicitly that only U.S. citizens need apply.

Six Pack Captain's Course

I see the difference between "Captain" and "Master", and the classes of Inland, Great Lakes and Coastal, but I'm looking for something more along the Yachtmaster line anyway. As you can see here, you take the Yachtmaster course after a large number of sea miles and days

RYA Sailing School - Fastrack Yachtmaster Courses, Gibraltar and Spain.

and the reason is that they appear to consolidate, verify and if necessary, expand and correct the knowledge that didn't get you killed getting the the U.K. Of course, you can just sit the exam if you think you already know it all, and qualify without further training. That's probably why Yachtmaster/Oceanmaster carry weight with insurance companies.

Last edited by Valiente; 01-11-2009 at 01:23 AM.
Valiente is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #9 of 44 Old 01-11-2009
Owner, Green Bay Packers
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SW Michigan
Posts: 10,318
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 12
       
Tamaya
Master, Oceans, Steam or Motor, Any Gross Tons
Radar Observer

“Scientists are people who build the Brooklyn Bridge and then buy it.”
Wm. F. Buckley, Jr.
sailaway21 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #10 of 44 Old 01-11-2009
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 5,829
Thanks: 0
Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts
Rep Power: 15
     
from the CG web site

Proof of Citizenship and Any Legal Name Change:
To obtain a Merchant Mariner’s Document (MMD), you must be a U.S. citizen or an alien "lawfully admitted to the U.S. for permanent residence." To obtain a license, you must be a U.S. citizen except non-citizens may apply for an Operator of Uninspected Passenger Vessels (OUPV) license limited to undocumented vessels less than 5 net tons. All original license and document transactions must provide acceptable proof of nationality (i.e., original passport, birth certificate, or baptismal certificate). All subsequent applications by non-U.S. citizens (i.e., renewal, upgrade, duplicate) must provide proof of nationality and immigration status. All original license and document transactions must provide an original social security card. If your name has changed due to marriage, divorce, or a legal name change, you must provide documentation of your name change (for example, a marriage certificate, divorce decree, or judicial name change) and your current legal name.

��
Verification of Sea Service: Several options are available for the mariner



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Never Forgotten

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
bubb2 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome