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So simple - I found this photo on another forum, but can't seem to find the maker...

The entry said ABI, but I don't see it on the net. I believe the product line went to "Taylor Made", but I understand it is discontinued.

Personally, I would make the slot 2-3 times longer (so that it would hold, like a hook, with only one leg shackled) and I would add a latch plate (connecting the shackles) so that the chain could not jump. The latch would also greatly increase strength, just as a carabiner is ~4x stronger when the gate is closed than when it is open. It appears stout, so that is not at issue.

Looks simple though - a drill press, port-a-band, grinder, and a bit of scrap.

I see an answer I like; with a deeper slot it could be used as a chain hook, with two shackles as shown, or even latched. I can even see, as illustrated, that one could easily hook the chain rode simply by pulling it up from underneath and then slacking the rode.
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The one I have is 7/16" thick or so... and quite stout... works with one or two lines attached.

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We use a basic old chain hook. From there a line comes off with an actual snubber (a rubber snubber). From there, we have two lines to tie on to two seperate cleats forward to spread the load. Hope that makes sense?? Works VERY well.

The chain hook will come off. I have heard say that it will wear the chain too if you keep using the same link, so spread it around. We actually use a cheap little bungie cord to hold on the chain hook. It takes no strain... just keeps the hook from falling off.

You can make your own. It is really simple.

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I've never had the hook come off under load. Our old hook (which was just a heavy duty S hook) would always fall off when slackened, the new one is quite snug. Interesting point re wear on the link....I guess only really a problem when staying at anchor for days on end.

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Sounds like a plan. Increasing the slot length makes sense. Not so sure that the latch plate would be necessary. Nice idea but is it over engineering the thing ? I guess I am a little relaxed about jumping the hook cos I've never had it happen and don't see it as a major problem. Indeed in really nasty conditions I will remove the snubber in the off chance that something else goes awry. One less thing to worry about and all that. Means a bit of crash and bang but not for long cos if I'm exposed and the blow is more than a squall then I'm going to run away to somewhere calmer.

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One thing to consider is that multihulls always use a bridle.

However, honestly, waves are often less of a concern, because shallow draft will often allow us to better escape open water.

In fact, the chain is still connected to the boat, providing back-up. I can only see myself worrying over the latch if I were leaving the boat for an extended period or expecting some real S___. The latch is only a plate with 2 holes and adds no complexity when unused.

Is this complete overkill? Yeah, I know it is. But in reading anchoring threads I see a lot of that going on and don't feel too bad about it. I sleep best when I have no cares in the world, and I won't stand anchor watch - I'll remove the weak link.

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Well done that man. Now its off to the engineering shop.

I see where you are coming from with the latch but i don't understand how you intend to attach it.

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A long rectangular plate (4"x3/4"x1/8") with 2 holes that match the shackle holes.

It would block the slot, so the chain could not jump out. Not very convenient, but positive. A lashing would do. A

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I just bought one of the these plates at Fisheries Supply and spliced two 5/8" lines to it with thimbles and shackles. I'm thinking I will run both lines from one side of the bow so the chain will be held captive between the lines. Haven't had the chance to use it yet.

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It would block the slot, so the chain could not jump out. Not very convenient, but positive. A lashing would do. A

though....hole at one end going through located by the shackle pin. U slot at the other. Flip it over the the second pin. Yes, it could come off the pin but hey how pessimistic are we gonna get here ?

also....given that I already have a hook....I could simply put two shackles onto the line end of the hook and run a bridle from them. I think the hole in the hook would be large enough to handle adequate sized shackles.

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If by chain hooks you guys mean one of these, I have been using these for years to stop chain growl. Coincidentally bought this one the other day and still have to splice a line on.



I never use it to hold a rode that has not got the bitter end securely fastened to the boat but I have yet to have one of these jump off a chain and when on, it does no damage.

Oh, and I have no need for a bridle.


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