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post #11 of 21 Old 12-08-2009
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It's a rip off of this 1907 quote by a dancer named "Bubbles" from Hoboken;

"There are many old strippers....there are many bold strippers, but there aren't many old bold strippers."

Thanks goodness for that, eh? [Shudder]

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It's one of my collateral duties to "break in" new deck officers coming into our fleet and I've observed that some guys seem to just understand various situations I put them into and some never "get it". I think this what is called "sea sense" and I've seen some guys who are more educated and intelligent than I am really struggle whereas others with much less education but the same experience level pick it up readilly. IMHO, what we learn in schools, from mentors, and from personal experience are just tools in our toolbox; we have to be able to use them.

Anyway, I'd rather be lucky than good!
Will Rogers once said: If you send a Fool to college, you will only end up with an Educated Fool.

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Powers of Observation

Interesting post . . . couldn't resist. I've broken in a few deck watch officers as well, and it seems that the good ones, the ones that "get it", have good powers of observation. They use instruments and charts, but they aren't fixated on them. They're constantly, but pursposefully, scanning---the horizon, the seas, the aforementioned charts and intruments, and even their bridge team---and soaking up information. They use all their senses to assess the situation. You can't have situational awareness without the ability to observe.

Prior to an approach the observe what the wind and current are doing to other ships are and feel what the wind and current are doing to their own. They make approaches and departures look easy because they set the ship up properly and let the elements do most of the work.

To a degree, these powers of observation can be taught, but a person has to be willing to learn how to learn. Human performance gurus are now trying to come with measures for a person's situational awareness. Helicopter pilot trainng is probalby the best current example.
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"Luck" at sea is made of judgement and preparation. While it's true that many good seaman are lost, and many poor ones survive, the odds favor the good ones. There are no guarantees though. You can't get out of life alive.
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Hard to argue with that WS...especially when you quote Hank Williams at the end!

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My opinion is that in the end it is all a navigation problem. The person who is watching all the variables when they are coming in to dock the boat is probably also keeping the right spares on the boat, considering the weather before they make a passage, figuring out what they need to learn and finding ways to learn it, etc ... they aren't just navigating the boat, they're navigating through life ..

What are you pretending not to know ?

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Luck?

Luck? Better be more specific...it goes both ways and you are going to experience both!

So with that in mind...wish for good luck, or better yet, prepare yourself, and you won't need as much good luck, and maybe that will reduce the amount of bad luck that you manage to survive.
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The more capable a sailor you are, the more founded your boat is, the luckier you get.

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The more capable a sailor you are, the more founded your boat is, the luckier you get.
I was just lucky when I was younger -
Now my luck is more Labour Under Constructed Knowledge as JS said.


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