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Old 09-23-2010
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tecchnically the sailboat is still in his bearth untill he clears the end of his finger pier and begins turning into the channel so the vessel in the channel has the right of way reguardless of how you want to describe it according to the rules of the road "Vessels leaving a dock, slip, tie-up or mooring shall yield the right-of-way to all vessels approaching" doesnt matter if they are entering the marina or leaving they are in the channel according to the uscg rules of the road
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One day your friend is going to open his big fat mouth and have all his teeth knocked out of his stupid, arrogant, selfish face. That would be a sight that would warm my soul and I would actually cheer!!!!
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Around these parts, we usually stay out of the way of barges.
lmao, this is true, and if that "boat" classifies as a barge, then S/V definitely needed to yield.
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Just to be clear, the regulation that Newhaul quotes only applies in Ohio, apparently. There is nothing in the International or Inland rules about requirements leaving a slip, except the requirement in the Inland rules to sound "one prolonged blast" when leaving a dock or berth, and it does not specify direction (pulling out forward or backing out).

That said, it would seem that the applicable Inland rule is that when power-driven vessels are in sight and crossing at a distance within one-half mile, they will come to agreement before engaging, either by light, radio, sound or other method of communication. I am not sure that waving the one finger greeting afterwards counts .
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If you are departing a berth/finger pier, the smart thing to do is to WAIT for the traffic to pass by before you toss off your lines. Unless you are skilled in holding position tween two piers on a windy day.
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One day your friend is going to open his big fat mouth and have all his teeth knocked out of his stupid, arrogant, selfish face. That would be a sight that would warm my soul and I would actually cheer!!!!
well that seems about as cro magnon as my buddy's childish outburst... but anyhow TX regs for inland waterways simply state 'all USCG' rules of the road apply. In those USCG regs i could not find anything regarding entering/exiting a slip or moorage. I guess its a free for all! the wild west!
a little common sense and courtesy were all that were required.

the only incident ive seen in the marina was when a guy attempted to sail out of his slip in 15-20's with gusts to 30-35... after making the channel he (and his son? grandson?) realized it was a bad idea so attempted to come back it. lined up to the slip, before the dropped sail got hit with a gust and came in so hot they crashed the bow into the dock.
i see the same guys in the parking lot the next day, same conditions. im thinking 'man, they're not gonna try this again?!?'

then i saw them unloading the scuba gear to asses the damage...
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i will try one last time this is what i found


The Ohio River is considered to be "federal waters" and boaters need to comply with all U.S. Coast Guard requirements
Ohio River Boating: Operating Regulations
Vessels leaving a dock, slip, tie-up or mooring shall yield the right-of-way to all vessels approaching.
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well that seems about as cro magnon as my buddy's childish outburst... but anyhow TX regs for inland waterways simply state 'all USCG' rules of the road apply. In those USCG regs i could not find anything regarding entering/exiting a slip or moorage. I guess its a free for all! the wild west!
a little common sense and courtesy were all that were required.

the only incident ive seen in the marina was when a guy attempted to sail out of his slip in 15-20's with gusts to 30-35... after making the channel he (and his son? grandson?) realized it was a bad idea so attempted to come back it. lined up to the slip, before the dropped sail got hit with a gust and came in so hot they crashed the bow into the dock.
i see the same guys in the parking lot the next day, same conditions. im thinking 'man, they're not gonna try this again?!?'

then i saw them unloading the scuba gear to asses the damage...
This is the reason you don't pass close to the pier heads, like some idiots do.
By staying out in mid stream you will be able to stay clear of the bumpkins that dart out into the channel without looking. This is akin to backing out of your driveway and hitting a car that is driving by on your street.
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