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chilling acount of roll over

i think all sailors try to prepare ourselves for this happening. its ONE of the nitemares that can happen. i'm in my 60's too, I think 'just cut me loose'
Be sure to watch the viedo, its chilling
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This is the second tragic but preventable death of a crew member
A Death in the Bahamas due to a skipper's lack of seamanship, in a two week period.

I hope that the less experienced readers realize that these deaths are preventable not by avoiding going to sea but by the application of good seamanship which include not being in the Atlantic in late fall and winter and not running for a lee-shore in a storm.

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This is the second tragic but preventable death of a crew member
A Death in the Bahamas due to a skipper's lack of seamanship, in a two week period.

I hope that the less experienced readers realize that these deaths are preventable not by avoiding going to sea but by the application of good seamanship which include not being in the Atlantic in late fall and winter and not running for a lee-shore in a storm.
Phil,

Yes, absolutely! It's really tragic these days to see so many new sailors who reflect the rather common practice of blaming others .... or circumstances ... for events which were largely the result of their own decisions.

In the case of Rule 62, we just don't know what the skipper thought or thinks. He's been ominously silent for over 3 weeks. THAT fact, alone, speaks volumes, IMHO.

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The Aussie Girl, Jessica Watson had a couple of knock downs a couple of nearly 180s and who knows what else. The boat she used to make her trip around the world was designed while she was a twinkle in her Granddaddies eye. A S & S 34, lines drawn in 1969
So some of those older designs are just as sea worthy if not more so then the present ones whose keels keep breaking off....
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Jeezzze - Remind me NOT to sail with this guy.

Those "boards" that he was having trouble describing are called "Hatch Boards." It sounds like they experienced rough seas and "there were a lot of uh, hatches, that weren't closed totally..."

His account leads me to believe poor seamanship had a lot to do with this loss of life...

Oh, and mariners should "never, ever leave port without an EPIRB."
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Pretty sad story and another thing that concerns me is this was a 41ft boat and they still got in trouble. Another example of what can happen out their in the deep blue sea. A 25 to 30ft wave?! I have never seen that while onboard my boat and hope I never do. Something like that would put mine under the moment it hit and I would be an artificial reef in just a few minutes.
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We made the trip from Portsmouth Va to St Martin. We were scheduled to leave Nov 6th but our weather routher adised us to wait till the following Weds. We should always use a weather router for a trip that involves crossing the Gulf Stream. They gave us way points to follow, where to cross the stream and diverted us while underway to avoid adverse currents or wind.
We made the trip in record time, for a Hinckley 48 yawl, in 8 days and some hours.
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what weather service did you use? web site?
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Here is another account from the Vineyard Times; Gulf Stream gale ends sailing trip in tragedy : The Martha's Vineyard Times


- Photo Credit: Royal Gazette

In this article, no mention is made of attempts at rescuing Thorn after the roll, or that Thorn was cut loose by the surviving crew.

I was VERY surprised to learn that Captain White, the guy that I quoted above, was the more experienced sailor!
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