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post #21 of 25 Old 09-24-2011
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Are there cleats on the boom or special attachments?
Do they bang around a lot under sail?


Wait I looked closer and it looks like they remain attached to the boom but if that is the case is some portion of them stretchy or is there a block with extra line somehow?

OK I looked again.
You have a standard lazyjack setup with permanent attachment to the boom the very top line instead of being terminated 1/3rd from the top of the mast has a block at that point so the tail end can come down the mast and terminate in a cleat reachable from deck.
Did I get that right?

The latter paragraph is correct. There is a cleat on either of the mast, just below the gooseneck. In the picture the lazy jacks have been eased and passed under the cleat, then belayed. To deploy the lazy jacks, the lines are freed from the cleat and then tensioned. There are pad eyes under the boom through the lazy jack lines pass.

As a bonus, a normal sail cover can be used. The lines do not bang the boom or the mast.
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Jackdale,

Did you build your lazy jacks or are they a commercial product? I am going to install a set and want to be able to stow them when not being used. Can you offer a design source or a product that does this well? "Bill Burke's setup", looks simple and effective.

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It depends on how tight your mooring field and in my field the wind the direction makes a BIG difference in how much space you have for a 5 second hiccup and getting back on in 30 knot gusts in the dark is a another deal

And for example while the Cal 29 will luff on the mooring the J24 moves around so easy it really misbehaves

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Did you build your lazy jacks or are they a commercial product? I am going to install a set and want to be able to stow them when not being used. Can you offer a design source or a product that does this well? "Bill Burke's setup", looks simple and effective.

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That is a shot from a boat that I was using for instruction; I do not own a boat.

I believe that the lazy jacks were installed when the boat was built. The key is to have long control lines.

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Sounds easy but you left out the part where you got away from the dock. How did you get from the dock to open water where you have space to unfurl and sail off into the sunset. How do you do this from a windward facing side tie in 15 kts breeze.
OB, I'm not sure which part of the whole procedure isn't clear to you. Yachts were around long before auxilliary engines were invented.

Adam has already answered the bit about finding yourself on the windward side of the dock. For the rest, it's simply choose the correct sail to hoist, hoist only one of them to start with, let go and sail off..

'tis quite easy once you get the hang of it - although some docks are better positioned than others. If you really must sail without an engine on a regular basis, I'd suggest picking up and leaving from a mooring rather than a dock.

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