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The things to really watch out for (besides the navigation buoys themselves) are the '+' and '*' symbols closer to shore as these are rocks that show above the surface, some at only low tide.
I know Mattinecock Point quite well from sailing Sunfish and other dinghies by there. Boats like that I would happily cheat G21 but not in a bigger boat that was not mine, especially at night. Hell, I was on a boat that hit a green can in the middle of the Sound in clear daylight. Ship happens if you are not checking the charts and GPS.
Disobey the navigation buoys at your own peril.

Regarding Bloody Point: on the Chesapeake it is even more important to obey the navigation markers as the skinny water can extend for a mile or more from shore. LI Sound gets dangerous near the shoreline (and unseen buoys) but the Chessy is a very different animal and you WILL run aground if you sail there long enough.
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Any change of shift should come with a status report from the previous shift that would include: weather, traffic, navigation and any standing watch orders. Barring that, your shift, your call.
This is the main lesson I believe.
The only harm done was to my blood pressure.

Next time I'll ask some questions when coming on shift.
In the captains defense he was below working on stuff and was watching the GPS too so he was not worried.
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You did the right thing. Anyway you were on watch so its your call. As a sailor I thinks its fine to be a belt and suspender kind of person if needed.
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Hell, I was on a boat that hit a green can in the middle of the Sound in clear daylight.
Sounds like a story, what happened?
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The Bears two cents:
The are Bold pilots, and there are Old pilots but very few Old Bold pilots! A conseritive approch is always the best approch.
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It only takes the least amount of inattention to put yourself in a bind. Distraction for a couple of seconds is all it takes.
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Competent skippers and competent crew would well advised to remember 'Red Right Return' and that "Rocks are Bad'.
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Two things

1) The buoy is there for a reason, primarily commercial shipping with deeper drafts

2) Prudent passage planning requires that buoys and other aids to navigation should be identified in advance of departure. There should be no surprises.

I would leave it to port.
Green returning! I would also have left it to port.
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I wouldn't think further of it. The skipper was imparting local knowledge. There is no right or wrong for you to defend. If you have to err, you did well to err on the side of safety. The opposite is to unthinkingly not act when the facts you have say otherwise, to blindly trust without basis. You did well. You did right.
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