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cape hatteras in february what gear should I bring?

There are fixed (non-opening) bridges under which your mast must pass. I have not yet done the "ditch" but I have heard that some of the published heights aren''t all correct, either.

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Bawgy: why cant you sail ICW with a mast over 65 ft?
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Having tasted Hatteras'' wrath aboard my 32 during a nor''easter in 2000, perhaps whether you are Catholic or not, a set of rosary beads might be in order?

We narrowly (and luckily) escaped disaster but eight others were air lifted off their boats.

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Where is a fixed bridge at on the ICW that you cant go under with a 65 foot mast ?
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Bawgy,

I did a quick search and found this from right here on the SailNet site. It''s an excerpt from an article by Sue and Larry:

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Bridges and Locks
An important part transiting the ICW involves the passing under or through many bridges. Both fixed and opening bridges need to be approached with certain knowledge and a modicum of respect. The fixed high-rise bridges on the Waterway are designed to provide a free vertical clearance of 65 feet. The actual bridge clearance however can differ from its design and from what''s shown on your chart. Tides, wind, and even rainfall can all affect the actual clearance of a fixed bridge. It''s common to see bridge clearance gauges that indicate less than the intended 65 feet. Boats with tall masts need to approach high-rise bridges carefully and proceed underneath only after confirming that the rig will fit.

Cruisers with mast heights between 63 and 65 feet are faced with a dilemma: Do you continue down the ICW approaching each bridge with trepidation, or turn around and sail offshore for the rest of your trip? Neither is a great option. If you find yourself in this crowd, you''ll will need to confirm each bridge at arrival, occasionally wait for low tide, and sometimes be forced to either heel the boat to one side, or turn around and backtrack to the next offshore inlet.

Our mast on Serengeti extends 60 feet above the water. This places the tip of our VHF antenna at 63 feet. We''ve never touched our antenna on any bridge structure, but we do know of several taller-masted boats that have sheared off their masthead tri-colors on the underside of bridges. How''s that for a close shave? Our experience tells us that all masts shorter than 63 feet will not pose a problem on the ICW. Take notice that the Julia Tuttle Causeway bridge in Miami somehow ended up with only 56 feet of clearance. A mistaken inversion of numbers, perhaps? Who knows? But boats with masts taller than 56 feet must go out the inlet at Fort Lauderdale and re-join the ICW at the Miami inlet.
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I really meant 65 feet around the Cape Hatteress NC /VA area.
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Sorry, Bawgy. That''s one of the problems with reading the "daily" posts; you don''t have the context of the entire thread to go on.
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No problem I will be more specific in the future
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Ahoy, dis er pirate will tell ye to bring plenty of chlorine to clean up your frozen puke and your sense of humor, along wit a lot of rum. Pirate of Pine Island.
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Ok, an update. I berated my friend until he listened to reason and made several changes to the aforementioned passage. First, we are going in March instead of February. Secondly, we will not go outside of Hatteras but will duck in to the ICW just north of Cape Fear. Thirdly, the beginning of the trip will include a side trip to Bimini from Fort Lauderdale. So the worst part would actually be crossing the Gulfstream in a month when winds are predominantly from the north. In fact, if the winds are from the north and exceed 20 kts, we won''t go. How does this sound? I know I''m feeling better about it. By the way, downloading a copy of your posts and showing them to my friend helped. thanks.
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I think the fact that you seriously considered the opinions of everyone from armchair offshore skippers like me to experienced, bluewater cap''ns instead of trying to dismiss peoples'' concerns is very commendable. Deep down, perhaps you had some reservations you may not have been aware of. Bravo to you for listening to that inner voice and adjusting your plans to put yourself more at ease. Healthy respect for Nature''s power and an appreciation of my own and my boat''s limitations is probably the last thing I''d want to leave shore without. In my opinion, you''ve already become a more seasoned and competent sailor without even leaving the dock!

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