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Old 05-22-2012
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Re: Single vs dual wheel boats. Educate me on pro and con!

Our last boat had a wheel that was 'reachable' while sitting at either deck edge.. but it was such a large diameter that it needed a 'wheel well' in the deck to accomodate it. It was an excellent sailing setup but necessarily blocked much of the aft end of the cockpit.

With today's increased beam aft the only way to get that kind of access and visibility is with dual wheels.

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Re: Single vs dual wheel boats. Educate me on pro and con!

One of the reasons, though a minor one, we went away from some designs, Hanse is one, was the size of the wheel. Not to my liking at all.

From a cruising perspective the cockpit access twin wheels provide is a marvel though to some extent a folding wheel can do something similar. I'm pretty sure we'll put a folder on the Womboat very soon.
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Re: Single vs dual wheel boats. Educate me on pro and con!

Maybe I dont comprehend your reply .... but most dual ruddered boat do have synchronized rudders ... and not 'parallel at all times rudders' but so that the turning radius at different angles/rates of turn are such that the each rudder is following different arcs of the turn (so that one rudder is not dragging during the turn but 'differential steering' similar to an automobiles, etc. --- 'differential steering' (by front wheels) ... the inside of the turn rudder is following a 'tighter arc', etc. .... and this was incorporated in the early 1890s designed scows which were probably the first boats to use dual rudders .... and dual tillers arranged with a 'kinematic pantograph' to allow for (dragless) differential steering when both rudders are submerged and the boat is turning.

I'll state again, the prime purpose of dual rudders is so that one rudder is always 'submerged' and not 'cavitating' ... especially important on broad beamed boats when at large angles of heel; Not for 'visibility' or comfort, etc.

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Re: Single vs dual wheel boats. Educate me on pro and con!

If you haven't boarded a dinghy or gone swimming from a cockpit with dual helms and a sugar scoop transom, you haven't lived.

One post above asked about engine controls. I strongly prefer them on the binnacle, especially when backing up. I want to be able to stand facing either forward or backward and not take my eye off the mission to adjust throttle.

I hate the ankle height controls, buried on either side of a dual helm cockpit. Crazy. While we have dual helms, the engine controls are up high on the inside of the starboard helm, so I can face either way and reach them.

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