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Re: Advice Sought for minimalist coastal navigation

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My wish list items are radar and an ais on one plotter, with overlay. But if and until that happens the above has worked for me.
You may want to get a separate AIS screen. In areas with heavy traffic the AIS targets are obscuring crucial information. Check out the English Channel on MarineTraffic.com.
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Do not rely on MarineTraffic.com, it is NOT real time. I have also used it on my smartphone, but it does have a caveat on the web site.

If you want to know where big ships are, listen to your local Vessel Traffic Services on VHF.

Thanks Jack, To clarify. I don't rely on any single tool exclusively. The times that I have used Marine Traffic.com it's been useful. While it's not real time, It does offer me the opportunity to see the vessel's name, and it's most recent course and speed. Having the name, helps in contacting them directly. Ships are more likely to answer a direct call, than a general securite.

The Last time, I needed it, it came in quite handy, it picked up every big ship of concern..and I was able to communicate with them.
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Thanks Jack, To clarify. I don't rely on any single tool exclusively. The times that I have used Marine Traffic.com it's been useful. While it's not real time, It does offer me the opportunity to see the vessel's name, and it's most recent course and speed. Having the name, helps in contacting them directly. Ships are more likely to answer a direct call, than a general securite.

The Last time, I needed it, it came in quite handy, it picked up every big ship of concern..and I was able to communicate with them.
The times I have used in the PNW it has been pretty good. I still rely on VTS in heavy traffic areas and at night or in fog.
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Re: Advice Sought for minimalist coastal navigation

Henry,

I just pulled out my 76csx and cable, opened up Offshore Navigator lite on my laptop and hooked up the unit and it recognized it. I threw in few quick routes and waypoints saved them and it was able to upload them to the garmin unit.

So, with that, I think you have the tools that you are looking for, and I know now, that I seem to have real time tracking with my laptop, garmin, and Maptech.
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Re: Advice Sought for minimalist coastal navigation

I'm surprised open CPN and active captain haven't entered into this discussion.
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Re: Advice Sought for minimalist coastal navigation

Henry, onceuponatime not so long ago, that's how a GPS was used, waypoint to waypoint, no chartplotters. SO by all means, yes, it can still be done.

I'd be surprised to find any GPS that didn't let you upload waypoints you created on your computer, but with most (all?) Garmins there is a small stumbling block. You may have to set the Garmin into "NMEA/NMEA" communications protocol for it to work with your AIS and displays, and then RESET that to "GARMIN/GARMIN" in order to upload or transfer waypoints and other information with the computer. No big deal--unless you're not aware of the need to switch modes every time. Maybe your model is smart enough not to need that, check the manual.
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Re: Advice Sought for minimalist coastal navigation

Tempest... thanks, that appears to be my missing link and if I'd fired up the MapTech package before posting I'd have had my answer. Thanks again.

Hellosailor... my point is that I'll have no AIS, radar or chartplotter. All I want are a depth sounder and the handheld GPS sending to a NMEA 0183 slave display showing SOG. I plan on line-of-sight navigating with chart and hand-bearing compass close at hand when/if needed. The handheld GPS with pre-loaded waypoints of my cruising grounds is for navigational assistance only if I'm in fog or hopelessly lost.
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Re: Advice Sought for minimalist coastal navigation

If you have not done so already, take a coastal navigation class, such as, ASA 105. I would say the knowledge gained in this class is more important than a chart plotter.
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Re: Advice Sought for minimalist coastal navigation

I have not taken the class, but have studied the course textbook (and others) extensively and understand the principles. All I'm looking to do is sail the same way they did 40 years ago, looking out over the bow instead of looking at an LCD screen. (Remember the Valu-Jet crash where the pilots were so distracted by instrument problems they flew the plane right into the ground?)

But... one would also be foolish not to avail oneself of the the safety margin afforded by modern developments.

Thanks all for your advice.
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