Advice Sought for minimalist coastal navigation - Page 2 - SailNet Community
Seamanship & Navigation Forum devoted to seamanship and navigation topics, including paper and electronic charting tools.

 3Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #11 of 23 Old 06-18-2012
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Corpus Christi, Tx
Posts: 1,350
Thanks: 36
Thanked 42 Times in 41 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
Re: Advice Sought for minimalist coastal navigation

Quote:
Originally Posted by b40Ibis View Post
Also train your dog to bark at buoys, specifically at buoys w/gongs. I am serious, I mean sic'em! Even in fog, a dog can hear better than we can. Plus they have a better sense of direction especially on well traveled routes.
The dog will bark strait towards it.
I call it DOGDAR.
Dog Originated Go Dog And Range, you just line up the yapping!
Now that is funny.
ccriders is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #12 of 23 Old 06-18-2012
Senior Member
 
jackdale's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 9,028
Thanks: 27
Thanked 59 Times in 56 Posts
Rep Power: 7
 
Re: Advice Sought for minimalist coastal navigation

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tempest View Post

My wish list items are radar and an ais on one plotter, with overlay. But if and until that happens the above has worked for me.
You may want to get a separate AIS screen. In areas with heavy traffic the AIS targets are obscuring crucial information. Check out the English Channel on MarineTraffic.com.
Tempest likes this.

__________________
ISPA Yachtmaster Offshore Instructor Evaluator
Sail Canada Advanced Cruising Instructor
IYT Yachtmaster Coastal Instructor
ASA 201, 203, 204, 205, 206, 214
As I sail, I praise God, and care not. (Luke Foxe)
jackdale is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #13 of 23 Old 06-18-2012
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 2,181
Thanks: 6
Thanked 63 Times in 62 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
Re: Advice Sought for minimalist coastal navigation

Quote:
Originally Posted by jackdale View Post
Do not rely on MarineTraffic.com, it is NOT real time. I have also used it on my smartphone, but it does have a caveat on the web site.

If you want to know where big ships are, listen to your local Vessel Traffic Services on VHF.

Thanks Jack, To clarify. I don't rely on any single tool exclusively. The times that I have used Marine Traffic.com it's been useful. While it's not real time, It does offer me the opportunity to see the vessel's name, and it's most recent course and speed. Having the name, helps in contacting them directly. Ships are more likely to answer a direct call, than a general securite.

The Last time, I needed it, it came in quite handy, it picked up every big ship of concern..and I was able to communicate with them.

Tempest
Sabre 34
Morgan, NJ
Tempest is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #14 of 23 Old 06-18-2012
Senior Member
 
jackdale's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 9,028
Thanks: 27
Thanked 59 Times in 56 Posts
Rep Power: 7
 
Re: Advice Sought for minimalist coastal navigation

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tempest View Post
Thanks Jack, To clarify. I don't rely on any single tool exclusively. The times that I have used Marine Traffic.com it's been useful. While it's not real time, It does offer me the opportunity to see the vessel's name, and it's most recent course and speed. Having the name, helps in contacting them directly. Ships are more likely to answer a direct call, than a general securite.

The Last time, I needed it, it came in quite handy, it picked up every big ship of concern..and I was able to communicate with them.
The times I have used in the PNW it has been pretty good. I still rely on VTS in heavy traffic areas and at night or in fog.

__________________
ISPA Yachtmaster Offshore Instructor Evaluator
Sail Canada Advanced Cruising Instructor
IYT Yachtmaster Coastal Instructor
ASA 201, 203, 204, 205, 206, 214
As I sail, I praise God, and care not. (Luke Foxe)
jackdale is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #15 of 23 Old 06-18-2012
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 2,181
Thanks: 6
Thanked 63 Times in 62 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
Re: Advice Sought for minimalist coastal navigation

Henry,

I just pulled out my 76csx and cable, opened up Offshore Navigator lite on my laptop and hooked up the unit and it recognized it. I threw in few quick routes and waypoints saved them and it was able to upload them to the garmin unit.

So, with that, I think you have the tools that you are looking for, and I know now, that I seem to have real time tracking with my laptop, garmin, and Maptech.

Tempest
Sabre 34
Morgan, NJ

Last edited by Tempest; 06-19-2012 at 01:39 PM.
Tempest is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #16 of 23 Old 06-18-2012
Oday30!
 
deniseO30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bristol pa
Posts: 6,915
Thanks: 55
Thanked 125 Times in 114 Posts
Rep Power: 10
   
Re: Advice Sought for minimalist coastal navigation

I'm surprised open CPN and active captain haven't entered into this discussion.

Denise, Bristol PA, Oday 30. On Tidal Delaware River, Anchor Yacht Club.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

My last project!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


My boat is sold!
deniseO30 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #17 of 23 Old 06-19-2012
Reward for lost Kraken!
 
hellosailor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 11,447
Thanks: 5
Thanked 131 Times in 128 Posts
Rep Power: 11
   
Re: Advice Sought for minimalist coastal navigation

Henry, onceuponatime not so long ago, that's how a GPS was used, waypoint to waypoint, no chartplotters. SO by all means, yes, it can still be done.

I'd be surprised to find any GPS that didn't let you upload waypoints you created on your computer, but with most (all?) Garmins there is a small stumbling block. You may have to set the Garmin into "NMEA/NMEA" communications protocol for it to work with your AIS and displays, and then RESET that to "GARMIN/GARMIN" in order to upload or transfer waypoints and other information with the computer. No big deal--unless you're not aware of the need to switch modes every time. Maybe your model is smart enough not to need that, check the manual.
hellosailor is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #18 of 23 Old 06-19-2012 Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 204
Thanks: 0
Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts
Rep Power: 8
 
Re: Advice Sought for minimalist coastal navigation

Tempest... thanks, that appears to be my missing link and if I'd fired up the MapTech package before posting I'd have had my answer. Thanks again.

Hellosailor... my point is that I'll have no AIS, radar or chartplotter. All I want are a depth sounder and the handheld GPS sending to a NMEA 0183 slave display showing SOG. I plan on line-of-sight navigating with chart and hand-bearing compass close at hand when/if needed. The handheld GPS with pre-loaded waypoints of my cruising grounds is for navigational assistance only if I'm in fog or hopelessly lost.
hriehl1 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #19 of 23 Old 06-19-2012
Barquito
 
Barquito's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 2,246
Thanks: 0
Thanked 26 Times in 26 Posts
Rep Power: 8
 
Re: Advice Sought for minimalist coastal navigation

If you have not done so already, take a coastal navigation class, such as, ASA 105. I would say the knowledge gained in this class is more important than a chart plotter.

Bristol 27
Cirque
Barquito is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #20 of 23 Old 06-19-2012 Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 204
Thanks: 0
Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts
Rep Power: 8
 
Re: Advice Sought for minimalist coastal navigation

I have not taken the class, but have studied the course textbook (and others) extensively and understand the principles. All I'm looking to do is sail the same way they did 40 years ago, looking out over the bow instead of looking at an LCD screen. (Remember the Valu-Jet crash where the pilots were so distracted by instrument problems they flew the plane right into the ground?)

But... one would also be foolish not to avail oneself of the the safety margin afforded by modern developments.

Thanks all for your advice.
hriehl1 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Coastal Navigation Software??? tsingtao Gear & Maintenance 5 08-13-2007 03:13 PM
dinghy advice sought dinghyfan General Discussion (sailing related) 6 07-19-2007 10:13 PM
Intro and Advice Sought Tntonboard Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 30 03-23-2007 04:49 PM
C&C 24 Advice/Opinions Sought psterne Boat Review and Purchase Forum 2 01-30-2003 10:41 AM
NYC to Chesapeake Advice Sought halyardz Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 2 10-02-2002 11:56 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome