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post #11 of 30 Old 06-19-2012
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Re: Tips and tricks for getting rid of crab/lobster floats

As far as lobstermen & crabbers splashing their gear, remember that those pots are easily dragged. If the tide is high and line has not been added to compensate it can be light enough to drag in a current, or lets not forget vessels snagging them unknowingly and dragging them about. As a former lobsterman the last thing they want is to lose those pots. Sometimes it is a risk when placing them but sometimes dragging happens.
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Just wondering if crabbers consider having their lines caught around props and cut the cost of doing business?
I know a lot of commercial crabbers here in Puget Sound. They do lose a lot of gear and it's not uncommon that they run over their own gear or the gear of a neighboring crabber. They typically grab their buoy and hook it in their power block and then just let the boat turn circles while they tail the line, sort crabs and re-bait the pots. No one is driving during this minute or two, the boat just circles which puts their neighbor's gear at risk. It's not uncommon to see a crabber lying on the swim step clearing a fouled prop. The commercial guys at least use a leaded line. The darn recreational guys will often use a floating line. That's just a hazard.

I carry a shorty wetsuit and snorkel gear on the boat in case I ever have to clear a line on my boat. I hope I never have to use it because the waters here are too cold to use a shorty comfortably, but I think I could do it if I had to. I never want to find out though.

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Just wondering if crabbers consider having their lines caught around props and cut the cost of doing business?
Boy, I don't know, but it certainly seems logical that they factor that in.

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Re: Tips and tricks for getting rid of crab/lobster floats

Sail drive and a folding prop. We'll see.
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Re: Tips and tricks for getting rid of crab/lobster floats

I've seen a few boat while shopping that have installed cages around prop/shaft. Not sure how well they work to avoid lines.

I've run over a few lobster floats so far, but haven't become fouled on one yet. Then again, I haven't sailed anything with an inboard yet either....
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Re: Tips and tricks for getting rid of crab/lobster floats

I've been trying to think of a mechanism that would work to drop a pot with a submerged float that sits 7' below the surface, perhaps with a 10# monofilament leader and a bobber to the surface. Then you'd pick it up with some kind of a rake assembly. The crabbers would lose fewer pots, and the boaters would lose fewer props.
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Re: Tips and tricks for getting rid of crab/lobster floats

DM- I have actually worked on boats that have those. They may work they may not. When the line DOES get fouled its a real hassel. Since theres no room to get a knife or blade in there to work. Therefore it needs to be removed before working which ups my time and ups my pay.Good for me bad for the owner.
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I've seen a few boat while shopping that have installed cages around prop/shaft. Not sure how well they work to avoid lines.

I've run over a few lobster floats so far, but haven't become fouled on one yet. Then again, I haven't sailed anything with an inboard yet either....
As DivingOtter said, cages can be a nightmare. Very few are closed on the aft end so they are still susceptible in reverse. I have seen the whole works bent up more than once with the actual buoy inside the cage.

In Maine, I think that a lot of buoys could be saved if they put their toggles much closer to the pickup buoy, like 4' not 30'. They would be slightly harder to pick up but you wouldn't be forced to run between the buoys and toggles. A timed release of the buoy could be cool. The low tech way of doing this is bags of salt but that would be a whole lot of salt.
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In Maine, I think that a lot of buoys could be saved if they put their toggles much closer to the pickup buoy, like 4' not 30'. They would be slightly harder to pick up but you wouldn't be forced to run between the buoys and toggles. A timed release of the buoy could be cool. The low tech way of doing this is bags of salt but that would be a whole lot of salt.
In Maine we'd be better if they just stopped using the useless toggles all together. They serve NO PURPOSE other than "my grandfathers, grandfather used them, so I do too." Toggles are a completely and utterly useless float that only INCREASES lost gear. Some guys are smartening up others are still stupid is as stupid does... Toggles are getting less and less used and are now only really used East of the Muscle ridge with a few stragglers left in Muscongus..

It would be nice to have a state ban on them but no legislator wants to take on the lobstermen as they are the last cowboys and someone would get their house burned down.....

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