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davidpm 08-08-2012 09:38 PM

Sleeping underway risk
 
As I was off watch a few days ago and lying down below I got to thinking about what would happen if we hit something.
We were going about 7 knots.
If you are lying down with your head forward and the boat hits a container or the pilot does something bad and you hit a reef or rock, I suspect it would be about the same as being dropped on your head from at least a couple of feet.
Almost certain neck injury probably death.

I slept with my feet forward but I noticed that not all the crew did that.

Am I the only one who thinks of weird stuff like that?

AdamLein 08-08-2012 09:57 PM

Re: Sleeping underway risk
 
Sure there is a risk of injury, but consider: when you are dropped on your head from at least a couple of feet, there's basically no friction. When you're lying in your berth, there's a lot of friction that keeps you from sliding forward as fast as you would be if you had fallen a couple of feet.

I've also noticed in those crash-test-boat videos that the boat didn't generally stop short when it hit something, but would skirt sideways or ride up it. I think the boat will absorb quite a bit of the impact.

I think damage to the hull is probably more of an issue that damage to your neck in the situation you're worried about.

That's not to say there's not a lot of sources of injury in a collision. Falling through a hatch or into the cockpit is pretty scary.

Anyway if you're concerned, you could wear a bike helmet while you sleep. They compress and absorb a lot of the energy of impact :)

Tempest 08-08-2012 10:48 PM

Re: Sleeping underway risk
 
I don't sleep all that well at sea, so I spend most of my time wishing I could sleep better. I nap much better during the day..than at night.

I'll sleep either in the quarter berth..because if the boat falls off a wave I won't go airborne....in that case my head is facing foward..
Or I'll sleep in the port settee where I have a crib rail set up...head faces aft there.

I've also slept on the cabin floor..in wet foulies..and on the cockpit floor because it was too stuffy below...

I think the ability to stay in the bunk, if you fall off a wave is more of a concern than hitting a container.. so, good strong lee cloths or a tight quarter berth are important.

dnf777 08-09-2012 01:05 AM

Re: Sleeping underway risk
 
Egyptians always transported the sick and dead feet first, so as the evil thoughts left their heads, they would't contaminate the rest of their bodies. I always sail feet forward for this reason, and as far aft as possible.

WDS123 08-09-2012 01:23 AM

Re: Sleeping underway risk
 
If you had energy to think about that kinda stuff after hitting your bunk - then Your boat is not changing foresails often enough

Classic30 08-09-2012 01:54 AM

Re: Sleeping underway risk
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 907215)
I think the ability to stay in the bunk, if you fall off a wave it more of a concern than hitting a container.. so, good strong lee cloths or a tight quarter berth are important.

Definitely.

Bruises, broken bones.. all possible if you can't secure yourself in your bunk well enough when the boat gets airborne off of a big wave. Which way you're facing becomes kind-of irrelevant in rough weather - it's more important that you stay in there at all.

casey1999 08-09-2012 08:40 PM

Re: Sleeping underway risk
 
Safest way to sleep would be in a standing position. Strap yourself in with a harness.

This position would offer the least chance of getting impaled by the periscope of a surfacing submarine.

Classic30 08-09-2012 10:24 PM

Re: Sleeping underway risk
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by casey1999 (Post 907603)
Safest way to sleep would be in a standing position. Strap yourself in with a harness.

This position would offer the least chance of getting impaled by the periscope of a surfacing submarine.

..but you'd drown instead. Wonderful. :rolleyes:

Regardless, you can't sleep standing up on any yacht I've ever been on.

CalebD 08-09-2012 10:26 PM

Re: Sleeping underway risk
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dnf777 (Post 907242)
Egyptians always transported the sick and dead feet first, so as the evil thoughts left their heads, they would't contaminate the rest of their bodies. I always sail feet forward for this reason, and as far aft as possible.

Golly gee Professor, you're so smart! I should have gone to graduate school like you instead of playing Doby Gillis and chasing after Maryanne and Ginger!

Feet first it is then.

capta 08-11-2012 10:19 PM

Re: Sleeping underway risk
 
I think this is the most "out there" thread I have seen yet.
Sailing is probably the safest sport there is & if you are worried about which way to sleep in a bunk and DYING, quite possibly you should find something else a little less dangerous, like staying on the couch.


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