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Re: who had right away?

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If your sails are up, you may be considered not under command,
If your sails are down and you're sitting there with the engine stopped could you be considered not under command? In the lake here if somebody is out drifting in their boat fishing everybody just avoids them which makes perfect sense. Is there a day shape for NUC, and is it proper to display it if you walked away from your stopped engine for fishing or something? There isn't a rule for boats which are drifting like there is for manually powered, wind powered, and engine powered is there?

If you stop the engine and paddle a few times, do you become a manually powered boat?

If you had a steel hulled 27' with 1/8" plating, how much would that improve things in the event of a collision with a lobster boat?
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Tend to? More like, almost always. Why? Because no one has "right of way" in this situation (and certainly not "right away").

There is a "give-way" vessel, and there is a "stand-on" vessel, but in the end BOTH have the responsibility to avoid a collision. If you "stand-on" all the way into a collision, when you could have done something to avoid it, then you are just as much at fault as the "give-way" vessel that didn't.

I think that too many people believe this is like driving a car, and that if they have "right of way" then any accident that happens is going to be considered the other guy's fault. Nope. Doesn't work that way. Not even close.
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When ever I hear someone use the term "Right of Way" as related to boats I immediately assume, perhaps incorrectly, that he/she has no clue as to the COLREGS...

They may, have a clue, I just automatically jump to "stupid is as stupid does" when I hear those three words abrading my ears........
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AMEN!!!

When ever I hear someone use the term "Right of Way" as related to boats I immediately assume, perhaps incorrectly, that he/she has no clue as to the COLREGS...
I'm sure you are right to some degree. I will bet most boaters have never actually read any part of the COLREGS. At best, they were taught these rules in some other type of formal training.

However, I think the term right-of-way is often used as slang for the concept of stand-on and give-way, but doesn't suggest as much a misunderstanding of the rules as we may think.
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Re: who had right away?

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Tend to? More like, almost always. Why? Because no one has "right of way" in this situation (and certainly not "right away").
Absolutely on right of way. There is only one reference in the US Inland Rules, none in the International Regulations.

I have seen a couple of cases in which one boat was held solely responsible. One was the case of a collision with a sailboat not displaying an anchor light.
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