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Re: Give me a break: Techniques for Heaving-To

I heave-to regularly.

The MOB I teach involves heaving-to immediately and for the pick up.

I usually heave-to prior to that teaching the MOB to determine how the boat behaves while hove-to. There is a lot of difference between main driven boats and genoa driven boats. We will have lunch - I have even fired up the BBQ.
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heave to or sea anchor?

It seems to me that a sea anchor would be easier on the bt, sails, and would require no further attention once its set in big seas. Ive nvr done either on MY boat. Any experienced opinions?
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It seems to me that a sea anchor would be easier on the bt, sails, and would require no further attention once its set in big seas. Ive nvr done either on MY boat. Any experienced opinions?
They're different things:
- Heaving-to is intended to (approximately) stop the boat to give the crew a break. It isn't any harder on the sails than normal sailing, although chafe can be more of a problem if you're not careful.
- A sea anchor is used to slow the boat down. You're still sailing..
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Re: Give me a break: Techniques for Heaving-To

Sheet in my reefed main, tie off the tiller and go below, done it for day's at a time.
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Re: heave to or sea anchor?

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They're different things:
- Heaving-to is intended to (approximately) stop the boat to give the crew a break. It isn't any harder on the sails than normal sailing, although chafe can be more of a problem if you're not careful.
- A sea anchor is used to slow the boat down. You're still sailing..
I hate to be pedantic - maybe.

Actually a drogue would slow you down. A sea anchor is used to keep the bow into the waves.
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I hate to be pedantic - maybe.

Actually a drogue would slow you down. A sea anchor is used to keep the bow into the waves.
Oops!.. my bad.

No-one I know has ever used a "sea anchor" as a sea anchor.. In the stuff we get down in this part of the world, it's simply too blooming dangerous to use one like that - over the bow at least - 'cause you'll get nicely creamed by the next roller.

I've only ever known them to be chucked out the stern - yes, as a drogue..
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Thats what my concern is. Jib against shrouds.have since bought"storm tactics" by lin and larry pardey. Highly reco it.2old school true salts who scull in and out of harbor. Answrref all my question. Ive only hove to on a bt i workd on with jib against shrouds. Dnt lk that idea. In this dvd from w marine the heave to with reefed main or trisail only. I tht jib had to be backed. Not on most sloops though i learned. Also when things get worse they deploy sea anchor in addition to main. They briddle it off the bow and about a 3rd aft from bow. It holds you at about a 45 to the seas. This creates a slick which keeps the seas from bteaking on u. They suggest that 2 deploy of the bow only can cause rudder damage if a big enough wave sends u backwards hard. Also youll swing back and forth a bit and wont have much of the protective slick.briddling it to take seas on qrtr bow will create a much wider safety zone(slick). I really suggest this dvd. A free overview is online. Not full movie. I will practice their technique. Thnx for the replies!
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Re: heave to or sea anchor?

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Oops!.. my bad.

No-one I know has ever used a "sea anchor" as a sea anchor.. In the stuff we get down in this part of the world, it's simply too blooming dangerous to use one like that - over the bow at least - 'cause you'll get nicely creamed by the next roller.

I've only ever known them to be chucked out the stern - yes, as a drogue..


Source A Small Yacht, a Big Ocean and a Wild Storm

A drogue on an open transom boat is an invitation to get pooped.
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Source A Small Yacht, a Big Ocean and a Wild Storm

A drogue on an open transom boat is an invitation to get pooped.
Heh. Maybe not one's that big!!

Seriously though, in the stuff you get down here (lots of fetch resulting in large, breaking waves) you really don't ever want to completely stop out there. Heaving-to allows the boat to be pushed "sideways" (usually at an angle to the waves) if anything nasty happens along whilst you're down below with your cuppa in hand.. and if you decide to run for it a correctly-sized drogue will slow you down enough to stop you being pooped - at least that's the plan.

Edit: AIUI, the problem with real sea anchors (like you one shown) is their trendency to pull the bow down in the trough, encouraging larger waves to break over the bow and run madly over the deck. I guess they'd be ok for smaller/no waves or lighter winds, but then you might as well heave-to?.. Maybe they're for people who can't heave-to and don't mind storing something else below.
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From the bow is the only way i knew of b4 i saw storm tactics by lin and larry pardey. I like this idea much btr.
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