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You know, you reach a point in your life where speed is just not so important anymore. When I was younger I used to tweek the sails all the time to get more speed and keep that yahoo from passing me. Now I just sit back and enjoy the sail with only minimal sail adjustments. Don't miss out on the experience by always trying to be faster. Put your money into creature comforts instead and relax out there.
...is there an echo in here...???
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Just an old fart having a senior moment. Hey, great minds think alike.
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I feel your pain ...

Looks like it's time for ...

A whole new suit of sails, not just a genoa.
Thorough bottom cleaning.
New prop.
Rig tuning.
Performance sailing classes for you, the wife and kids.
Bring some neighborhood kids along to sit on the rail.
And, if all else fails, a huge fan for the foredeck. I've read that works.

I can't believe all these guys are trying to talk you out of spending $$$$$ for another half-knot of VMG. What's happening to this place?

Kurt
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Looks like it's time for ...

A whole new suit of sails, not just a genoa.
Thorough bottom cleaning.
New prop.
Rig tuning.
Performance sailing classes for you, the wife and kids.
Bring some neighborhood kids along to sit on the rail.
And, if all else fails, a huge fan for the foredeck. I've read that works.

I can't believe all these guys are trying to talk you out of spending $$$$$ for another half-knot of VMG. What's happening to this place?

Kurt
Don't stop there! install w/w sheeting traveller....adjustable sheet leads....V/C offshore paint, after stripping, fairing and epoxy barrier coating the bottom..New vang..adjustable backstay...remove all un needed items such as cushions etc. fare in all thru hulls wet sand paint to 800 grit and burnish with news paper and you should notice a few 10'ths of a knot.
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Don't stop there! install w/w sheeting traveller....adjustable sheet leads....V/C offshore paint, after stripping, fairing and epoxy barrier coating the bottom..New vang..adjustable backstay...remove all un needed items such as cushions etc. fare in all thru hulls wet sand paint to 800 grit and burnish with news paper and you should notice a few 10'ths of a knot.
Or forget about it and enjoy the sailing.


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I wouldn't beat yourself up too much. Newer boats have longer waterlines and more modern, faster designs. There are two Jeaneau 36s. One has a PHRF rating of 93, the other 120, compared to the O'Day 35 at 144 (which is more than respectable). And those few seconds of speed may have cost him a hundred grand more than you spent.
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If speed is a factor in your sailing life, get a race boat like Giu's, otherwise, sit back, relax, enjoy, who cares..?! Embrace Capt. Morgan..!
We cracked 7.3 knots yesterday on a 33 footer with a 26 foot waterline, but I knew that was 1 knot of favourable current. But as we were racing, I was more concerned that we pushed a 30 footer up and gave him some dirty air so that we could make the mark without a further tack, not the speed. A pair of near-identical CS 30s were jousting just behind us...that made four 10 foot wide boats in a roughly 45 foot wide slot...close quarters for some...One of the CS 30 made it into our draft and finally broke the deadlock with his rival and sailed close to us for the rest of the race: he was so pleased that we had inadvertantly done him a big favour that he bought the crew a jug of beer!

Felt good to race my old boat, which is now in the care of a new skipper for a few years. I never raced her myself, just cruised her quickly, mainly because I didn't want to pay $10,000 for new sails and a slick, faired bottom to have her reach her full potential. But after yesterday...
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Don't stop there! install w/w sheeting traveller....adjustable sheet leads....V/C offshore paint, after stripping, fairing and epoxy barrier coating the bottom..New vang..adjustable backstay...remove all un needed items such as cushions etc. fare in all thru hulls wet sand paint to 800 grit and burnish with news paper and you should notice a few 10'ths of a knot.
But I did all of that, well except the burnishing with newspapers, does that really help
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Other than a wife, sailboat racing trophies are the most expensive items on the planet. Lots of people go to extrordinary effort to obtain both.
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WHile your spending lots of $$$$$$$ for speed, don't stop until you've got a carbon fibre mast, Kevlar standing and running rigging, hydraulic backstay tensioner, teflon bottom paint, empty out your water tanks remove all personal gear and leave that heavy beer at home!!!
Me.....I like my beer and if I go fast, I go fast...If I go slow, I go slow......Que Sera, sera...
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