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Search: Posts Made By: BryceGTX
Forum: Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 10-17-2014
Replies: 1,167
Views: 141,628
Posted By BryceGTX
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

You are concerned about my forum etiquette.. but yet Bub's initial post is good etiquette???? His question was a rhetorical question meant to insult. It required no answer.

Before you post...
Forum: Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 10-17-2014
Replies: 1,167
Views: 141,628
Posted By BryceGTX
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

You guys really should stop trying to analyze the great lakes.. you are totally insulting yourselves..



I judge people's post based on what they say, not who they are.
Bryce
Forum: Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 10-16-2014
Replies: 1,167
Views: 141,628
Posted By BryceGTX
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

Sounds fair enough..

I provided a measure of the "rough waterness" of my boat.. according to you.. same as "Blue Waterness" So problem solved. This measure works for any boat. Here, I repeat if...
Forum: Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 10-16-2014
Replies: 1,167
Views: 141,628
Posted By BryceGTX
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

The equation cannot distinguish, hull types, keel types, does not consider natural frequency....

So what's your point.. you are pointing out the obvious.. I did not see you offering up any useful...
Forum: Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 10-16-2014
Replies: 1,167
Views: 141,628
Posted By BryceGTX
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

If only it were that simple.

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Of course it is not that simple.. however, a complex discussion must develop from simple concepts. Keep in mind, we have a wide variety of readers.. not...
Forum: Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 10-16-2014
Replies: 1,167
Views: 141,628
Posted By BryceGTX
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

It actually isn't. Ted Brewer generated the comfort ratio as something of a joke and was then stuck with it because people who didn't understand grabbed hold of it.[/quote]

No.. it is an excellent...
Forum: Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 10-16-2014
Replies: 1,167
Views: 141,628
Posted By BryceGTX
My original question was to supply a means to...

My original question was to supply a means to evaluate the "Blue Waterness" of any boat. You have no means to do this.

You would have us believe a boat is "Blue Water" or not!! Amazing there are...
Forum: Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 10-15-2014
Replies: 1,167
Views: 141,628
Posted By BryceGTX
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

CR is : Displacement in pounds/ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x B^1.333)

This is an excellent place to start.. ;)

It brings up one of the most critical aspects of comfort which I subscribe to whole...
Forum: Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 10-15-2014
Replies: 1,167
Views: 141,628
Posted By BryceGTX
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

I measure it as "Been there, done that" Perhaps you might like to offer another measure.. So far you have not.



Can always spot someone who has really never experienced the Great lakes when he...
Forum: Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 10-14-2014
Replies: 1,167
Views: 141,628
Posted By BryceGTX
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

I appreciate what you say.. From my standpoint, the next step is to quantify this ability of a boat.
Anyone like to offer any suggestions?

As a side point.. I have nearly 60 years experience on...
Forum: Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 10-14-2014
Replies: 1,167
Views: 141,628
Posted By BryceGTX
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

Sounds fair enough.. it appears this is a non-trivial task how to quantify "___ water" boats. (insert you favorite term) So let me offer up a measure that to me is better than anything I have seen...
Forum: Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 10-14-2014
Replies: 1,167
Views: 141,628
Posted By BryceGTX
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

I never offered "rough water" as a replacement for "blue water". Rather is was you guys that made the substitution and assumed they are one in the same.

I offered it as a means to separate the...
Forum: Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 10-14-2014
Replies: 1,167
Views: 141,628
Posted By BryceGTX
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

The way I see it, one must define <b>"BETTER"</b>. My wife defines this much different than I. Once again, we made the trek to Annapolis.. and we looked at all the boats.. She did not find a...
Forum: Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 10-14-2014
Replies: 1,167
Views: 141,628
Posted By BryceGTX
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

Perhaps you could refresh my memory what the question is.. I might have felt it was irrelevant to the discussion.
Forum: Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 10-14-2014
Replies: 1,167
Views: 141,628
Posted By BryceGTX
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

Sounds fair enough.. you agree.. "Blue water" boats are prone to failure. Perhaps this is to be expected. Kinda hard to get all the bugs out of a design if you only make a few. These boats are...
Forum: Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 10-13-2014
Replies: 1,167
Views: 141,628
Posted By BryceGTX
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

You are kidding right!!! Threads like this dissuade anyone from cruising in anything that does not have "Blue Water" attached to it. Instead people buy 50 year old boats that have corroded...
Forum: Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 10-13-2014
Replies: 1,167
Views: 141,628
Posted By BryceGTX
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

Sounds fine.. you don't agree that IP looks like anything.. and apparently you think it is not "Blue Water" or "Rough Water". I will agree to disagree..



LOL.. every blog, book or discussion...
Forum: Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 10-13-2014
Replies: 1,167
Views: 141,628
Posted By BryceGTX
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

Virtually every one of our boats even now invariably have more form stability than otherwise. So not sure where you are going with that..

And not sure why you are detailing where ballast is.....
Forum: Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 10-13-2014
Replies: 1,167
Views: 141,628
Posted By BryceGTX
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

Such boats were "evolved" well enough that these sailors could go up on a yardarm in these conditions. That is the point..
Forum: Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 10-13-2014
Replies: 1,167
Views: 141,628
Posted By BryceGTX
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

I don't think we could count the number of "blue water" boats that have the galley sink on the outboard.. particularly center cockpit boats. Not sure we can criticize this boat on that account.
Forum: Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 10-13-2014
Replies: 1,167
Views: 141,628
Posted By BryceGTX
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

The way I see it, these boats had long shallow keels with rounded bilge. IP has similar design. Whether or not we agree that it is the same as IP, I suppose is personal opinion..



The way I...
Forum: Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 10-13-2014
Replies: 1,167
Views: 141,628
Posted By BryceGTX
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

This is a great picture that shows how sea worthy these boats were.. 4 men are on a yard arm in this rough sea.. are you suggesting your boat is so seaworthy that you might like to go up the mast in...
Forum: Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 10-13-2014
Replies: 1,167
Views: 141,628
Posted By BryceGTX
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

I have yet to see the definition of "Blue Water" "Offshore" or "Rough Water". Worse yet, no way to define the "Improvements" you are suggesting.. rather I see a barrage of conflicting opinions as to...
Forum: Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 10-13-2014
Replies: 1,167
Views: 141,628
Posted By BryceGTX
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

Not at all... I was suggesting we can look at history to get an idea what has worked well. If it worked for 1000 years, does it somehow stop working today?

Keep in mind that waves are much the...
Forum: Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 10-13-2014
Replies: 1,167
Views: 141,628
Posted By BryceGTX
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

I only posted a very simple point which has degenerated as threads are prone to do to other subjects.

Clearly my point is that no one has presented a measure of what is "blue water" or "rough...
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