Should we all scratch the date of this event into the skin of our forearms as to never forget?
It is my understanding that when the Salty Dawg Rally was formed, it was between a few seasoned 1500 cruisers. “Seasoned” meaning they had participated for several years and had paid good money each year to the “for profit” event. They had gained all the knowledge they were ever going to gain from the seminars. There were no hard feelings toward the 1500, lots of praise for having participated, lots of good memories and strong bonds towards those they met. It was just very practical that “graduates” developed, and it was time for them to leave the nest.
In other words, there was a couple of cruisers that felt confident enough to “buddy boat” on down to the BVI. Without paying out a substantial amount of their cash for an education they had already acquired. Or paying to have safety standards checked by others, since their lives depended on it because they had lived aboard for the past 9+ (?) years. I was told year one that it was not for newbies or uninitiated. It was a rally for seasoned sailors, organized more for the camaraderie than as “hand holding” event that you’d like it to become. Not for profit. They shared dinners, stories, advice, while preparing. They had weather service. Each year it grew and there were more boats involved.
What is so wrong with having choices? The 1500 for the more intrepid needing the education and support, or the Salty Dawg that offers less of that and geared more toward the confident and seasoned sailors. OMG! You must stay awake nights thinking of those that partake in neither, go off on their own accord! All while you are unable to control or sanction!
Few things he's written in this thread demonstrate a greater lack of understanding about how these rallies operate, and the genesis of the SDR, than the following written a few dozen posts ago:
And if "a pool of unsurpassed knowledge" is so important, why is there so much resistance to one of the best pools of this on the planet - the one that the C1500 uses? One rally is very clearly meeting that need. The other? Who knows?
I wonder if he could share with us, precisely who comprises one of "the best pools of knowledge on the planet" that defines the Caribbean 1500? And, where were they a few years ago, "clearly meeting the needs" of those under their wing, when one of the boats in their flock foolishly entered Oregon Inlet in heavy seas less than a day out of Hampton, or when RULE 62 was lost with one of her crew a week later?
Now, Rick Palm obviously has a good deal of experience on this route, and I have nothing but respect for Andy Schell, who certainly made the right call last fall with the weather and the time of their departure... But they are presumed to comprise one of the most knowledgeable, experienced pools of bluewater sailing talent on Earth? Seriously?
What he completely fails to appreciate, is how much of the 1500's "knowledge pool" was diluted with the formation of the SDR... The entry list for the first 2 years of the SDR is filled with veterans of multiple 1500s like Bill and Linda Knowles... Boats like the Hylas 70 ARCHANGEL, the former "flagship" of the 1500, bolted immediately for the SDR, as did the very experienced crew of the Tayana 64 CELEBRATION... In short, there was a massive shift of experience and talent between the respective fleets of the 1500 and SDR, with the exodus of so many of the 1500's stalwarts and veterans... But, that sure hasn't kept him from railing incessantly about their "low bar to entry", or "casual approach to safety"...
Anyway, thanks for joining the fray, good to see someone else has had it with some of this blather... :-)